Like a dictator, Obama threatens unprecedented gun control by executive order

And how do you make sure that gun owners are responsible? Adam Lanza's mother gave all appearances of being a responsible gun owner yet her son still got hold of her guns and hundreds of rounds of ammo.

It is logical that if you reduce the overall number of guns and ammunition out there the less likely that guns will be stored and handled irresponsibly. Further by increasing the cost of guns ammunition there is much greater incentive to make sure they will be used responsibly.

B-Bob has addressed this pretty much as I would.

Bobby Joe might think twice about how ammunition he would keep around and how he stores it if it cost him a lot. If Angry Mike puts his ammo on a credit card it will be much easier to trace and keep track of. Keep in mind of one of the problems with the Columbine and Virginia Tech shootings was how the shooters got the guns and ammunition. If it is more expensive and thus difficult to buy ammunition the more likely it will be track than just through cash sales.

Personally I would be fine with seeing ammunition that expensive. You are right though it won't happen but increasing the cost of ammunition while not a complete solution will help. Further I would like to see greater taxes on ammunition used for things like better mental health treatment and gun buyback programs.

 

lol, new nail gun:

 

Adam Lanza's mother was not responsible, regardless of appearance. I firmly believe that all guns should be locked up in a safe that can't be easily compromised, at all times. The exception is shotguns, for home defense, and those who are willing to actively maintain a gun permit.

Again, the single deaths of gun shot incidents is much more serious issue than the media sensation of public shootings.

One of the big problems that is largely ignored in the gun control debate is ease of access to guns, not just the purchasing aspect. Currently there is no responsibility for gun owners to ensure their items are not stolen.

A good percentage of gun owners do not keep their guns locked up in a safe. As long as they report the gun stolen, they are for the most part, not held responsible. If gun owners are held responsible for guns that are not properly secured in a safe, then these owners will be forced to get rid of these guns or face negligent charges.

If a person keeps a handgun or rifle as an excuse for home defense, the price of ammo is not going to make that much of a difference. S/he will still keep a magazine in the gun, whether it cost .50 a bullet or $10 a bullet. It doesn't take 20 boxes of ammo for a kid to accidentally shoot his sibling.

Again, if a person wants to shoot up a mall or school, the price of ammo isn't going to be a big issue. We simply have too many guns out there to prevent these type of people from inflicting damage.

 

So, if you have a hammer why do you need a gun?

 

All gun owners are responsible until their gun kills someone.

 

So which of these executive orders violate the Constitution?


1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

 

Im wondering if the NRA is planning on filing a Class Action against the Feds???

 

"Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence."

Is gun violence a disease? Why have the CDC research it?

 

"Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."

So they want more guns at schools?

 

whats funny is that he chose high noon to propose his executive order....

 

If you believe that these shootings are based in part on mental illness, then yes.

 

They study death by injury.

In the 1990s, politicians backed by the NRA attacked researchers for publishing data on firearm research. For good measure, they also went after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for funding the research. According to the NRA, such science is not “legitimate.” To make sure federal agencies got the message, Rep. Jay Dickey (R-Ark.) sponsored an amendment that stripped $2.6 million from the CDC’s budget, the exact amount it had spent on firearms research the previous year.

But last summer, Dickey recanted. No longer in office, he wrote an editorial stating that “scientific research should be conducted into preventing firearm injuries and that ways to prevent firearm deaths can be found without encroaching on the rights of legitimate gun owners.”

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...gress_blocked_gun_control_studies_at_cdc.html

 

Because gun violence is one of the main reasons why American life expectancy is worse than any other developed country. It IS a major health issue.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/violence-plays-role-shorter-us-life-expectancy

 

None of them. Think this was overblown a bit much in the last 10 days? We should be doing all of these things anyway

 

Despite the name, which was apparently retained for tradition, CDC is legally obligated/empowered to cover all public health issues involving disease, injury and safety - not just infectious diseases - as part of DHHS

Unless you think there should be yet another government agency that we should create to handle this rather than the CDC?

 

The CDC issue reminded me of this interesting story from last month...

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"We looked at homicide as an infectious disease," Zeoli said in an interview. "To spread, an infectious disease needs three things: a source of the infection; a mode of transmission; and we need a susceptible population."

The researchers studied every homicide that occurred in the city of Newark, N.J., over a period of a quarter century, from January 1982 to September 2007. In all, Newark had seen 2,366 murders in that period, a rate of homicide some three times as high as that of the general U.S. population.

The researchers tracked down the time and location of every single murder. They plugged the data into a software program that has previously been used to track infectious diseases: When you put in the geographical location and the time of infection of each victim of the infectious disease, the program creates a model that shows how the epidemic is spreading — and where it might go next.

"We hypothesized that the distribution of this crime was not random, but that it moved in a process similar to an infectious disease, with firearms and gangs operating as the infectious agents," the researchers wrote in a paper they published in the journal Justice Quarterly.

The analysis showed that homicide spread through Newark very much like an infectious disease. The value of tracking murder in this fashion, Zeoli said, was not just to let police know where murder was happening — police already track hot spots and direct resources to those areas — but to make predictions about where homicide might spread next, based on the path of the epidemic.

http://www.npr.org/2012/12/06/166600403/can-murder-be-tracked-like-an-infectious-disease

 

and he pooned out wit doin nuthin out of 2 duzen ordurs..........needz to grow some nutz....nra jus pimp slaped