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Lieberman: "There is no humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip"

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    What point?

    As if you haven't.
     
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  2. madmonkey37

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    Why don't you tell that to all the suicide bombers and Hamas militants who still fight even though Israel has an overwhelming military advantage. They would gladly die fighting Israel to advance their cause in anyway.
     
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  3. glynch

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  4. Ottomaton

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    Actually, there is no Freudian slip and I'm indicating that trying to fix one stupid injustice with another just makes everybody extra stupid and extra poor.

    I would love to hear you explain what a rousing success land reform was for anybody in Zimbabwe not named Mugabe. But hey, they got back at the white colonialists (who happen to have been born in Zimbabwe) and gave it to the richest people in the country! That sure is progress!
     
  5. glynch

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    Now you are saying that having Jews primarily from Europe go to Palestine and take the local's land was an injustice?
     
  6. Ottomaton

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    No, but you are. Though I do believe the 1947 war was essentially a series of injustices by both sides. But that is kinda what war is.

    And for the most part, they didn't take the locals land, but rather bought it from the other non-resident landlords in what is now Turkey.

    But the big white man colonialism angle always plays well on KPFT.
     
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  9. Ubiquitin

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    Why don't you?

    Militants use suicide bombings because they are the only way to inflict any real damage against Israel. If they could send boats and attack the Israeli Navy, wouldn't you think they'd be doing that as well?
     
  10. Ubiquitin

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    Charles Krauthammer is a well-known conservative commentator with a strong bias towards Israel. His view on the situation is neither accurate nor relevant.
     
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    So, if a liberal had a strong bias toward the Palestinians, would their view be accurate and relevant?
     
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    Neither accurate nor relevant.
     
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    http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/MYAI-84TACE?OpenDocument&RSS20=02-P

    Increased humanitarian aid to Gaza after IDF operation 17 April 2010

    At the Cabinet meeting of 22 March 2009, the Government of Israel instructed the bodies dealing with the matter, to enable the entry - without restriction - of foodstuffs to the residents of Gaza from all relevant sources, after it has been verified that they are indeed foodstuffs, and this in the framework of the humanitarian efforts. The Government directed that the foregoing be scrupulously implemented.
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    Not only that, but Egypt was helping enforce the blockade and Europe supported it. The backlash over the flotilla incident is over the top. I only wish Israel handled it so nobody died.
     
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    Egypt wants nothing to do with the people of Gaza as well, hence there helping of enforcing the blockade. The flotilla purpose was to break a blockade, not provide aid. Israel gave them plenty of warning and offered to take the "aid" to gaza.

    It's a sad situation when anyone dies, but Israel had every right to stop the boats from entering.
     
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    After checking the supplies the flotilla was delivering, Israel tried to send it to Gaza, but Hamas declined. Another political stunt.
     
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    If I believed in God, I'd think your inability to make words appear despite repeated effort was a sign from on high.

    My schadenfreude at your missteps aside, glynch, of course when you hand select ideologically motivated literature professors pretending to be historians like Edward Said who say that by even talking about Palestine, you and I are both being cruel imperialists, then yes, you can make a pretty good history where Jews eat Palestinian babies, twirl their mustaches and laugh maniacally.

    If you don't like consensus history, get some people who think like you do to rewrite the narrative for you. That seems to have worked out so well during the Bush administration, though I appreciate that you could never conceive that you are anything like them.
     
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    How very kind of the Israeli government to permit the people of Gaza not to starve to death.
     

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