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Liberals are corrupt, hateful, immoral and taking the country in the wrong direction

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Jun 9, 2023.

  1. fchowd0311

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    Yup it's all that meme culture ****. "we are just joking". It's a good way for fascists to test the waters of extremist rhetoric.
     
  2. Os Trigonum

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    "so you're saying" meme culture is fascist
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    Fascist elements definitely amongst the 4chan "I'm just joking" crowd. Absolutely. But you'll probably turn it into a joke about how I'm saying all jokes are fascist.

    Humor can also be a nice deflection for when you really don't have any sincere arguments to stand on.
     
  4. Os Trigonum

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    so given I like humor, can I be a fascist too?
     
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    I edited my comment a second after posting to add something and I guess my added comment was on the money.
     
  6. Os Trigonum

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    I guess so
     
  7. Agent94

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    Do you really think the outer edges of the social "sciences" have any real world impact? It seems to me they are laughable but people on the right dig up the weirdest of these papers to fuel the outrage machine.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    Also a lot of these papers are far more nuanced and don't make these drastic absurd conclusions. Usually the way it's done is the right wing media finds small excerpts without context and claim that's the central premise of the lefts argument.
     
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    Far less qualified than Harris, that's for sure.
     
  10. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Both major parties are fundamentally autocratic. Neither party is serious about reducing the power and scope of the federal government and increasing individual liberty for the people, you just like the infringements supported by team blue better. Also, whataboutism isn't a real thing. It is a lazy response to cogent arguments by analogy.
    It isn't that we don't see any situation beyond our own, it is that we think we should be able to respond to our situation as we choose and you should be able to respond to yours as you choose. We don't like being dictated to, especially when we are forced to do something we don't agree with to deal with a situation that we are not otherwise involved in. If you are homeless, that is a you issue, not a me issue. I shouldn't be taxed to feed and shelter you (for example).
    Have all the empathy you want. Don't force me to participate in it. If everyone that wanted to vote to provide more resources to cause X just provided more resources to cause X, it would be fully funded. Ultimately, the left is largely generous with other people's money.
    Hogwash. Fascism has invariably been a revolutionary movement, overthrowing the hierarchy. Just like communism. The people at the top of the heap don't violently overthrow the existing order, they mollify and keep things the same. Mussolini swept into power and reordered Italy. Hitler swept into power and reordered Germany. Lenin swept into power and reordered Russia. Pol Pot swept into power and reordered Cambodia. Mao swept into power and reordered China. The people who maintain their place in the hierarchy are the Churchills, the Chiang Kai Sheks, Bush, Clinton, Biden, Reagan. People that tinker around the margins, but leave most of society the way it is. Someone at the top of the current heap doesn't want to upset the apple cart.
    Incorrect again. If there is one synonym word that encapsulates the core essence of fascism, it's statism. Fascism is not about just having a hierarchy, it is about the primacy of the state at the top of the hierarchy. For some reason, you don't seem to understand that. Anything that opposes the primacy of the state (like pushing for small government and individual liberty) is incompatible with fascism. Wealth inequality is the natural result of unequal inputs. If one team has Hakeem and the other team has Luke Longley, they are not going to achieve the same results, all else being equal.
     
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    There’s a lot to respond to in the above post but wanted to respond to this.

    Yes homelessness can be caused by your own actions but it can also be caused by many things beyond your control. For example
    What if a hurricane destroys your house and you don’t have insurance because insurance companies pulled coverage from your state? At that point you’re homeless and if your whole community is also destroyed it’s unlikely that you can count on charity to help you anytime soon.

    It’s situations like this that we have things like national flood insurance, building regulations and FEMA. It’s dealing with situations Iike these and others why Libertarianism is a utopian ideal but is limited when faced with real world complexities.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    I will say it again the terms “Fascism”
    And “Socialism” are far too often misused and misunderstood in current political rhetoric.

    People dressing in drag has nothing to do with Socialism nor is cutting taxes on capital gains fascism.
     
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    fight fascism with everything you've got

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    apparently science isn't fascist, it's . . . communist ;)

    To Be Scientific Is To Be Communist

    http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/22214/
     
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    How many of our posters appear in this video?
     
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    By little guy Regan means the short rich fat billionaire.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    No one has said the later is fascism.

    Fascism is an ideological movement. An individual can have fascist tendencies.

    Again, this is a product of our media treating Nazis and fascists as abject evil with mustache twirling villains that have no motive outside of just wanting to be evil which results in people not understanding how fascism forms. The media and Hollywood portrayal of Nazis and fascists would make one think that their entire ideology isn't based on victimhood and a fear of social order breaking down.

    This leads to so many of these empty comments about "leftists call everyone fascist" because in your head when that label is used your mind jumps to "this person just called someone something I associate with abject evil and mass murder just for a simple disagreement of opinion".
     
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    Oh how I missed you, you giant shitstain.
     
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    Quoting an old and clearly senile president? Nice one LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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