Liberal Misogyny

Rashmon · Mar 7, 2012

I love it when giddy gets all riled up defending Limbaugh.

Who, if I recall, claims to not even listen to, right?

rimrocker · Mar 7, 2012

Limabaugh and Maher are not equivalents.

Limbaugh: Made Honorary member of the Republican Congressional Caucus.

Maher: Gave some money to Democrats.

Limbaugh: Credited by elected Republicans for their victory in 1994.

Maher: Never credited by Democrats for anything.

Limbaugh: Had VP Cheney on several times to spout the Bush Administration spin.

Maher: Makes fun of VP Biden.

Limbaugh: Made an Honorary Texan by decree from Gov. Rick Perry.

Maher: Not an Honorary Texan.

Limbaugh: Made racist remarks about black quarterbacks.

Maher: Likes to bang black chicks.

Limbaugh: Stupid enough to get busted for illegal drugs.

Maher: Smart enough to not get busted for illegal drugs.

Limbaugh: Writes op-eds for the Wall Street Journal about Conservatism.

Maher: Appeared on Murder, She Wrote.

Limbaugh: Science bad.

Maher: Science good.

Limbaugh: Has Clarence Thomas officiate at his wedding.

Maher: Hangs out with Hef.

Limbaugh: Likes to put big, fat cigars in his mouth.

Maher: Likes to bang black chicks.

Limbaugh: Received a letter from Ronald Reagan that thanked him "for all you're doing to promote Republican and conservative principles ... [and] you have become the Number One voice for conservatism in our Country."

Maher: Never received a letter from Reagan.

Limbaugh: Given awards by just about every Conservative group ever.

Maher: Had a show cancelled.

giddyup · Mar 7, 2012

Rashmon said: ↑

I love it when giddy gets all riled up defending Limbaugh.

Who, if I recall, claims to not even listen to, right?
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Riled up? You are funny. Just because I won't be cowed by a bunch of weak, slanted arguments doesn't make me riled up.

I work in schools; how am I going to listen to Limbaugh? I used to listen to him pretty regularly until about 6-7 years ago. I've only been back in schools since last year.

I watch Maher's show every week. I'm tough. :grin:

giddyup · Mar 7, 2012

rimrocker said: ↑

Maher: Had a show cancelled.
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Limbaugh had a TV show cancelled and also lost a gig on one of the football studio shows over the Donovan McNabb comments and if you knew his story you'd know that he'd been fired many times before.

No doubt that Rush is bigger than Bill. How is that important? You want to go hard at him because if he doesn't overstep his bounds (like he did here) he has a significant clout that you don't like. Talk about "not fair."

Free speech extends to Rush, to Maher, to you, to me and to the local idiot on talk radio. Everybody needs to chill.

Carl Herrera · Mar 7, 2012

Here is a good reply to Kirsten Powers' article

This week, in the wake of Rush Limbaugh’s atrocious comments about Sandra Fluke, nominal liberal Kirsten Powers suggested that*Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Matt Taibbi, and Ed Schultz are the ones who are truly waging the war on women, and that the left is hypocritical for allegedly failing to properly call them out or organize campaigns against them. She’s wrong, and not only because feminists regularly criticize those men or because they’ve paid a price for what they’ve said.

This is the same Kirsten Powers who*called out*Anthony Weiner with a hilariously sniffy and*self-aggrandizing article*that implied that Weiner’s greatest sin was sending her an email denial of the sexting charge before she went on Fox News to defend him. The same Kirsten Powers whose entire career as a commentator seems predicated on the willingness to go on Fox News and trash feminists while assuming the mantle of one, who*wrote*a column claiming Planned Parenthood was lying about more birth control leading to fewer abortions. “This deception smacks of a fleecing of taxpayers in an effort to promote an ideological agenda, rather than a sincere effort to help women plan families,” she*wrote breathlessly, before having to withdraw the entire column because of a misread data which she said “invalidates my piece.”

Back to the male offenders on the left. Powers claims in one breath that they’re allowed to go on insulting women but then says that Erica Jong got rudely mocked by Matt Taibbi for … calling him out for sexism.*She fails to mention how Keith Olbermann and Michael Moore were targeted by a feminist campaign*demanding an apology*for their dismissal of the women who accused Julian Assange of rape. Or how much fire Chris Matthews took from feminists — including*in this space*– for how he talked about Hillary Clinton. It would take about eight seconds of Googling (I’m counting the typing) to find women on the left*excoriating*Bill Maher for sexist insults aimed at Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann. Powers throws these women a bone at the very end — but then dismisses them.

But the problem with Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly, and other conservative commentators who gleefully approved of Rush, was not just their use of words “slut” and “prostitute” — the two words on which Powers (and Mitt Romney!) conveniently focused. As this helpful ThinkProgress mashup*helps drive home, those words, or the sexualization of a woman simply because she’s out in public being female, are not the beginning and end of his offense. His offenses include defending the exclusion of contraception coverage on the grounds that he and his listeners shouldn’t have to pay for the greedy sexing of loose women (once again, that’s not how insurance works), and using leering, crude sexuality to demean a woman simply because she spoke up about reproductive health.

Is going after Limbaugh opportunistic, especially on the part of Democrats who have occasionally been willing to throw women’s reproductive rights under the bus? Absolutely. Is there a massive difference between sexist insults and a sustained attack meant to silence a woman who is advocating for policies that would benefit other women? Yes, but let’s not pretend any of this is about policy or real women’s lives! The “war on women” is not about misogynistic insults. Those are merely a symptom of the same disease that, more critically, is causing a political onslaught on women’s health and rights.

Unfortunately, the “but liberal men are sexist” meme has been picked up by those on the right who are the most opportunistic pseudofeminists of all, the ones who think forced-ultrasound laws can justly be called “Women’s Right To Know” acts. As writer Katie Heaney said on Twitter this morning, “GOP dudes who say liberals don’t attack Bill Maher on his sexism aren’t listening to feminists. Sort of their problem in the first place?”
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http://www.salon.com/2012/03/07/the_myth_of_left_wing_feminist_hypocrisy/singleton/

giddyup · Mar 7, 2012

I'm not criticizing the feminists for looking the other way, I'm criticizing the "guys" here...

basso · Mar 7, 2012

giddyup said: ↑

I'm not criticizing the feminists for looking the other way, I'm criticizing the "guys" here...
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None of whom are "feminists."

pgabriel · Mar 9, 2012

basso said: ↑

why do you think calling someone a ****ing idiot a) strengthens your argument, and b) would incline someone to engage in a serious discussion with you?
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dude, you didn't respond to my last point. i'm one of the only people on this site who has the patience to engage you. i don't have the paitience for two of you

RocketRaccoon · Mar 9, 2012

The majority will see the hypocrisy while the minority defends personal details.

basso · Mar 9, 2012

Obama's Million Dollar Man:

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