Liberal hypocrisy exposed yet again. CNN has become the birther news network

Don't listen to em' Ted!

Yer the best the GOP has to offer! You HAVE to run!

 

I think Mahatma got the order wrong.

 

I'm pretty sure Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Palin, Bachmann, and many others went through at least the first 2 or 3 stages of that, and yet none of them won.

 

But, the whole article plays down the credibility of the birther argument against Cruz. It mentions that the Constitution isn't clear, points out his mother was a citizen, that he's been a citizen since birth, that McCain just ran as a foreign-born citizen, as did George McCain -- it's a laundry list of why Cruz will have no problems running for president. If anything, CNN is propping up Cruz's candidacy, not diminishing it.

 

It's actually not a settled issue.

John McCain was not born in the contiguous US, but he WAS born on sovereign US soil. He is not a foreign-born citizen. He was born on US military property in a place that was under US sovereign control at the time. George Romney never actually ran a complete campaign so his eligibility was never tested legally. Obama, obviously, WAS actually born in the United States so it didn't become an issue then either.

Ted Cruz, if he ran and it got challenged, would be the legal test case to finally define natural born citizen.

CNN is not hypocritical here. The only hypocrites are any birthers who think Obama should be ineligible because he was born in Kenya that then support Ted Cruz. Anyone who threw a fit about his birth certificate and now supports Cruz should be mocked.

 

So how do you feel about Fox news and Roger Ailes? Impartial? Not trying to further any agenda?

 

Bro, they only speak the truth!

 

Well, I didn't say it was settled, only that CNN doesn't yield the birther argument any traction. And, I think as we've seen in the George Romney and McCain campaigns, it's politically a tricky thing to actually bring a challenge based on natural-born citizenship. I bet Cruz will not be challenged.

As for McCain, that he was born on a US base may not be so pat an answer. This document says that birth on a military base alone does not confer citizenship: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf. As for Panama's status at the time, it's not clear to me either. People born in the territory of Puerto Rico are automatically citizens, but people born in the territory of American Somoa are not. So, which was Panama? Surely they did not give all the Panamanians US citizenship back then?

 

Another smelly turd thread from bigtexxx.

 

The difference is that Cruz actually wasn't born here as compared to the birthers questioning IF Obama was born here. At least they have a legitimate question, rather than making up a story about Obama being born in Kenya. I think making up a story is the worser of the media uses in these two cases.

 

hippocrates

 

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...and, as confirmed by Citizen's United, as people, they have a right to free speech, right?

 

You chose to ignore my response so I will say it again.

Cruz = Born in Canada
Obama = Born in America

Birthers were contesting the FACT that Obama was born in America, saying he was born in Kenya, demanding birth certificates, and even denying the certificate when it was shown.

Here they are bringing up the question of who is eligible, not MAKING UP the fact that he is not american to slander him. Can you not see the difference?

 

So do you still believe Obama was born in Kenya?

 

I think the Obama situation is much more complex, although similar on the surface. Obama spent much of his youth living abroad and there were some reports about his having listed a Malaysian nationality on his school records there in middle school. Would that dismiss his US citizenship? Then there were also some "reports" of his having received some kind of financial aid in college as a "foreign" student. As far as I know these have not been proven or dis-proven.

Since there is some confusion about what "native born" means, these could be salient.

 

No.

No it wouldn't. "Native born" has nothing to do with what you write down in school records, especially when you are in middle school. There is no confusion AT ALL regarding that.

 

Come on major, he's not making insinuations, he's just asking a question.

 

CNN is not a liberal network for the same reason the country is not "center-right," like Republicans tried to claim after Obama won. Like it or not, they're the news network of record and they earned that in Tel Aviv and Baghdad twenty two years ago. The phone-hacking Aussie with transmitters on every continent was trying to counter-program soap operas and turn gramps' social security into ad dollars, he and that glorified ad-man couldn't have given a flip about "balance."