Rudy's system adjust to his players...always has. There was a point not too long ago where all the PG did was dribble the ball down the court, pass it in to the post, and then jack up threes if he was open. Remember the Kenny SMith dyas. Or Matt Maloney. But then when we actually got a better talent at that position, surprise, surprise...the role changed. The system relies on mismatches. If Lewis has a distinct advantage over his opponent day in and day out, he would be an integral part of the offense. If he doesnt, as I suspect he woouldnt, he would be relegated to 3 pointers or open mid-range jumpers, some post action, and the occasional one on one play....thats all he does in Seattle as of now.
If KT can develop his outside shot, I think he would be an excellent 3 for us. He's quick enough to guard the 3's in the league, plus he's strong enough to post up against any 3 or 4 on the league. I don't know what role he is willing to play, but I'd HATE to see him leave.
Rashard's been in the league awhile, and while very good, like someone else said, wants the max contract and isn't quite that good. I'd rather we used our lotto draft pick on the best player available, and did not resign Walt.
Maybe. But I still think Rudy seems unable to incorporate 3s into his office. Pippen came... and sucked. Yes, it's true: he was overrated. But he looked very good during Jordan's first absence. Then we got Walt. No, Walt never was a world beater. But he was a very productive palyer for years. He joined the Rockets... and promptly sucked. Worse than he'd ever been before. Now, Rudy sometimes doesn't even play with a 3. He'd rather have 3 guards at times. I think he just doesn't like the position. And I'll agree, it's the least important one. But I do think he has failed to adapt in regards to that position.
he still had a system and jackson's coattails to ride. Even with that, he showed flashes of what can be expected from him in the future from his attitude -thus approach to the game- in the playoffs Walt's 3 year production in Houston has been very very similar to his three years prior years in Portland. I agree. Rudy adapts slowly, but he does eventually adapt, often with a better feeling for the new style than those who were quick to change. He is a smart coach, I think. But like everyone else here, I hate the 3 guard lineup and could see some misuse of Rashard. But he would adapt.
The stupidest thing in the world is to give Rashard Lewis a big contract. For 2 reasons: - He really really really isn't that good. Take out the Glove, and he's even worse. - His ego would get so pumped up, that it would affect his play. Truth is, he can't play D, handle the ball, or play a post-up game. Those are the GLARING parts of his game and our team. The only thing he brings, we have. Mobley is an excellent 3-pt shooter, Steve is above average, and if that's what we want, Walt is available. I'm all for getting Lewis. But I have no doubt in my mind that, at this point, he's worth no more than 5M per season. Anything more, is a waste of money. It would be so simple to get him. GM Sund would die for our picks, since they are re-building and the pick would do wonders for trading Vin Baker. Sorry, Rashard may fit in well with the team, but our max capability wouldn't be so high. He would make us a team that's very close to winning 50 games a season. Odom on the other hand, would transform us into contenders. He has everything we lack/need. Plus, he's be ok with taking up a sixth man, 30min/game role, as well as less money to play with us.
Sane, That was a darn good post. I like Rashard, but I wouldn't give up Kenny, or our first rounder to get him.
i keep hearing that rashard has no post up game. where is this coming fom? i live in seattle so get to see a lot of sonics games and he has a very nice turnaround jumper from the low block. and he's a decnet passer from the block. im going to chat with him when the rockets come to town and ill use the jedi mind tricks to persuade him to come to houston...
OK, if we could turn back time, I'd give up any of our three picks that year for Rashard, hindsight makes decisions easy. But now I think he is only talking about Houston for negotiation purposes only. It's his right and he is entitled to work his way to whatever he can get. That doesn't mean he has any intention of coming here. Players can talk about money not being everything, but it turned out to be everything for Chris Webber, Tim Duncan, and Hakeem. I'd probably make the same decision, who knows, I could only dream of being offered that much money. But in the end, if Seattle's talk of building around Rashard is true, there is no way in hades of us getting him short of trading Francis. I'll buy all of you guys an In and Out burger next time you're in California if I'm wrong.
Draft picks and Kenny Thomas for Rashad Lewis. Yes. It could be done and should be done. That would complete the team. It would simply be a matter of finding an old horse to roam the middle against the big Centers. Kelvin Cato provides enough inside presence to warrant the starting job. All we would need is a backup Center with some meat on his bones. That's it. The Rockets couldn't do any better. The only way we don't make a bold move for Lewis is when we own a top 5 pick. A top 5 pick changes everything.
Did Odom say something to the effect that he would take less money to play in Houston? Everyone seems to think he wants to be here, but I haven't heard anything.
haven, He hasn't said anything to that affect. But word has it that the Clippers GM is not going to renew his contract, as well as Kandi's, because he's going to use the drug suspensions as an excuse. Let me re-phrase. He won't sign him to the MAX for sure. If he's going to play for less money, while joining us and getting the starting spot? Plus, everyone loves Rudy. Then there's Steve & Cat. Put yourself in his shoes. Your team refuses to offer you the MAX. Your team has 2 other strater-quality SF's. They're playing better without you, so they are using that as a "if you leave, we won't be as hurt as you". There's this other team, with a coach whom Kevin Garnett said he swim across the ocean for. They're offering a good deal. It's not as good as the Clipps deal, but close. You get minutes wherever the matchup suites you and get more minutes than you would've gotten from the Clippers. Best backcourt in the league as opposed to, Brand and friends. What do you do?
Lewis wants the Max,even if we were to give up KT,Moochie and the our 1st round pick and the pick from Toronto that we might get we still might not be able to get him.Lewis is a nice player with good upside but he is a 3 and not a 4,even though he is a good rebounder and a good shooter. Sane has very correctly pointed out his weaknesses,and I don't think that he could improve the team very much. EG is younger than Lewis and is equally tall,and can run the floor shoot the 3 pretty well and can rebound as well in addition to bringing much needed shotblocking abillity.If he works hard he can also improve his dribbling and ability to create his own shot.
I swear, if Rashard Lewis isn't the most overrated player on the history of this BBS.......... People are over here talking about giving him <i>the max</i> and trading Kenny Thomas <i>and</i> a high lottery pick for him? As if signing Mo Taylor for $50million wasn't bad enough.... Rashard Lewis would make a nice fit on this team due to his shooting ability, but giving him more than $6million and trading two quality players for him is ludicrous. He will be a <i>good</i> player in this league, but does not have the superstar potential the majority of you claim he has. He is a very below average ball-handler, an average defender, he cannot postup, and he cannot create his own shot or shots for others. His only quality is an incredible perimeter shot. I would rather have Oscar Torres doing pretty much the same thing at $900K rather than Lewis at the max.
As stated before Rashard is overrated period end of story. He got punked tonight you can see clearly he is still scared to take a buzzer beater or a final shot.
Yep. It sure as hell adjusted to Pippen's slashing skills. Would you agree with me that Rudy basically forced his system onto the last guy you'd want shooting 3s?
I think Rashard ends up re-signing with Sea for about 8 mill or so a year. Sea will not offer him the max, and will basically wait and see what the market is for him, then when no one offers him the max, Sea will basically outbid the other team by half a mill or so. In this sense, Sea would be wise to play it out, and let Rashard's self worth go down, as no one will offer him the max. This situation reminds me of Mo T when he was a Clip and was seeking the max. Mo ended up with a 7 mill/year deal with us after last year, I think Rashard will end up with aorund the same contract with Sea.
The lotto pick will not be parting in any sign and trades. I'd be hesistant to trade a top 7 pick in a straight trade, let alone a sign and trade. I see the Rockets offering full fledged MCE, take it or leave it. The Sonics simply won't take Mo Taylor off of an injury or Glen Rice, which basically rules out sign and trade options for high dollars. The key in the Rockets' attempts will be the lure of home, and of a young exciting team, plus the money being more than sufficient. It'll all depend on Seattle's view of his worth.
