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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by DonnyMost, May 30, 2018.

  1. Haymitch

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    I've grown to really like the Heritage trim of the Bronco. I'd get a 4-door because I have 3 kids, but I think it's a beautiful vehicle. I would upgrade the engine, of course. It somehow comes with a 4 cylinder.

    I'm not actually going to buy one though. Not the right time to drop $50k on a glass guzzler for me. I just think it looks awesome.

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  2. Dr of Dunk

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    I want a decent-sized SUV for my next vehicle (probably), but gas mileage sucking is the only reason I'm staying away. I've always been a 4-door kind of guy. Why, I don't know, since I'm single and don't have kids.
     
  3. gucci888

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    Got a 2023 Kia Carnival about a month ago along with our 3rd kid. The overall drive has been great although disappointed that wireless apple car play wasn’t available. I’m sure this will be standard by the time you get yours it is an absolute must.

    I got 2023 Pilot and the wireless apple play had been a game changer.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Tbh I thought that would be a big deal for me, but so far I've hated using my car as an interface for my phone.

    I just feel like everything works better and faster using my phone itself and I don't mind the phone mount or charger, etc.

    Granted I haven't tried it in a couple years. So maybe wireless and updates will change my mind.

    As for the Carnival, I'm a big Kia fan, but I feel like it misses the mark for me because it doesn't really stand out for me in any of the important categories I'm judging my next buy on. No AWD option. Poor MPG. Good storage I suppose but the convenience features seem to be not the best. Reliability is a bit of a wild card too.

    If I was getting a minivan for a large family that didn't include small kids it would probably be high on my list. Those 2nd row seats are pretty baller.
     
  5. peleincubus

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    I am trying to talk myself out of a bmw m2 right now. I’m doing a good job of it to cars are too expensive.
     
  6. gucci888

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    Kia's have never crossed my mine so was a bit surprised when I got into one. Grant it we got the top of the line model due to availability and need.

    I know you said you were a couple years out but was on the waiting list for a Sienna for about 7 months and there was literally no update anytime I asked. Kia dealer said she's has people waiting for mid-model Carnival for well over a year now.
     
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    Bought 2 new vehicles last month and dealers weren't even beating around the bush with their markup. Ended up getting both cars at MSRP which was unheard of after doing quote a bit of research. It's nuts out there.
     
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    If you don't need a car right now don't get one. Prices still insane.
     
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    Milk-Powered Cars: Michigan Dairy Farmers Turn Milk To Ethanol Fuel
    The producers of "Vodkow" will soon make 2.2 million gallons of ethanol per year out of lactose

    by Sebastien Bell
    June 11, 2023 at 08:52
    Car Scoops

    Your gas flap may soon have a milk mustache, because Michigan dairy farmers are partnering with a distillery north of the border to convert sugars that are a byproduct of the ultrafiltering process into ethanol for your car.

    The Michigan Milk Producers Association (MMPA) recently announced their partnership with Dairy Distiller, a company based in Ontario, Canada, that produces a milk-based vodka called Vodkow. Having personally tasted the company’s products, I can confirm that they’re pretty good.

    The company uses a byproduct of the ultrafiltering process called milk permeate. The material is full of lactose, which is a type of sugar. Like all other forms of sugar, it can be fed to yeast to make ethanol.

    While Dairy Distiller has historically fed that ethanol to Canadian humans (in the form of vodka), it will soon feed it to American vehicles as well. That will be possible thanks to a $41 million plant that is planned to open in early 2025, they say.

    The facility will be located next to an existing MMPA location in Constantine, Michigan, where 14,000 tonnes of milk permeate are produced per year. The plant will be capable of processing the lactose-rich material into 2.2 million gallons of ethanol annually.

    Continued...
     
  10. donkeypunch

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  11. Sajan

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    Turbo 4 cylinder?
    :(
     
  12. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    Hmm... not sure I love the ascetic design (but I do like the white roof). But it's a Toyota, so we know it's the best truck to buy for anyone on CF.

     
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  13. donkeypunch

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    I know. When I read that, I re-read it hoping it said 4cyl turbo diesel instead.
     
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  14. Sajan

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    i am honestly interested if MPG is good. I could use a good non-crossover type SUV...


    Toyota won't release fuel-economy estimates until later this year, but we expect huge increases over the 2021's appalling 14 mpg combined (13 city/17 highway).
     
  15. Xerobull

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    Hmmm…it’s a hybrid. Less HP, more torque.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44699820/2024-toyota-land-cruiser-revealed/

    Downsized Hybrid Powertrain, Better MPG
    All 2024 Land Cruisers will be powered by the same 2.4-liter turbocharged four-cylinder hybrid iForce Max powertrain and eight-speed transmission that will power the high end of the Tacoma model range, most notably the TRD Pro. This powertrain's output of 326 combined horsepower represents a dip below the old 5.7-liter V-8's 381 ponies, but its mighty combined torque of 465 pound-feet betters the old model's 401 pound-feet where it counts off-road—especially since the iForce generates peak torque at just 1700 rpm instead of 3600 revs. An integrated tow hitch is standard, but this smaller and less powerful Land Cruiser's tow rating does drop from the prior model's 8100 pounds to a still-respectable 6000 pounds.

    Toyota won't release fuel-economy estimates until later this year, but we expect huge increases over the 2021's appalling 14 mpg combined (13 city/17 highway). The reformulated hybrid Cruiser should also handily outclass the larger LX600's 19 mpg combined (17 city/22 highway).

    The use of this engine is a big reason why the Land Cruiser is strictly a five-passenger machine. The hybrid system's 1.87-kWh nickel-metal hydride (NiMH) battery sits atop the axle where a third row would go, and it even creates a load floor that's a bit higher than we like to see. Still, the cargo area is voluminous, and we appreciate how the hybrid setup enables the fitment of a standard 2400-watt inverter and power delivery system.
     
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  16. Dr of Dunk

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    The last Land Cruiser was pathetic when it came to mileage. Made it uneconomical for everybody to use them to go shopping at Sam's. lol. This one has enough HP and torque for 95% of the people using them, probably, with the added bonus of probably having much better mileage (one would think).

    I don't think it's for me (anything under 20 mpg in the city seems archaic to me), but, at least on paper, so far it seems like a good advancement of the vehicle.
     
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  17. donkeypunch

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    This is the estimated MPG for the Tacoma using the same engine.

     
  18. Sajan

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    If this thing gets 25mpg combined......I am in.
    22mpg and I am on the fence. Anything lower, I am out.
     
  19. Dr of Dunk

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    They're supposed to be coming out with a smaller/compact cruiser. They kind of showed a "cloaked" or "shadowed" version of it during the Land Cruiser reveal. I hope it doesn't look dopey and actually has functionality. But I think it's supposed to be an EV, so I'm guessing the range will suck. lol.
     
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  20. NewRoxFan

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    Maybe one of these?

     

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