Not probably. Definitely. I think you're a little too emotional. I'm not really upset from the Dallas game, despite Cuttino's poor performance, and don't blame the loss on him (though I'm sure you'll continue to accuse me otherwise). I'm making an observation that his skillset is not the right fit for the team. This isn't all about Mobley either -- I said the same about Kenny, and I've been a huge supporter of his for a long time. Again it's early, but that's how I see it. And "r****ded"? "gay"? I think you should grow up.
Kenny 2 pts 15 minutes 1 to 1 reb 0 asst MoT 4 pts 23 minutes 2-10 4 rebs 1 asst Ed Griff 7 pts 23 minutes 3-9 7 rebs 5 asst Oh yea. . . . KT is the problem 20% from the field is what we need. .. no no 33% 4 rbs. . . . . awesome!! Rice's 1st good game in a while. . .and . . . Nachbar's OH SO STELLAR Preseason . .. Artest - NOW THIS IS A CHEMISTY GUY !! QUESTION: Since Francis left Vancouver. . .because he wants to be a PG WHY WILL HE ACCEPT BEING AN SG . . . NOW??? Esp when his best friend in the world is traded in the process????? Chemisty . . . what is dat??? Rocket River sorely disappointed in folx
I can't think of one damn easy-fix trade solution for the rocks that isn't totally lop-sided in their favor. I like Cat as the starting sg. There are only 6 or so sgs in the nba that I would trade Mobes for right now, when you take into consideration age, contract, chemistry, and most of them are dreamcasting trades. I wouldn't mind trading KT for a sf that's more of a shooter. But the kind of calibur I would want(Mike Miller, Mike D, Battier, ???) would require too much more than KT. I don't want to trade Nach, he has just as good of a chance to end up as talented as any of those sfs, imo. Mooch, pooh. Pawn him off somewhere please. I hate his play and his contract. Mooch + Drew obligation(or some other future 2nds) to Atl for an injured Dickau? Really I don't even care if we don't get back anything in return. Getting rid of his contract would be good enough for me. We can pick up a pg as crappy as him for a lot less money from the NBDL or somewhere. Cato I wouldn't mind losing as long as we get a borderline starting C back in return(with a less crappy contract). Rice, would someone want him? Just don't trade him for longer contract or even lesser talent. Otherwise I dont' really care at this point. But I don't think there will be any trades, and except for Mooch, I'm fine with that. Please trade Mooch.
Voo, The And 1 All-Stars (CM, SF&MN) refuse to play D. Since their coach doesn't sit them for not defending well, they try silly things on the offensive end. Artest tries to shut you down. CM didn't turn up the D since he wasn't scoring. MN never fights through a pick. Coach Thomas demands the Pacers to play D. Rudy would mess up Artest's game.
How about James Posey??? How about Battier??? Get KT and Moochie out of here while they've got some trade value, or if they have any trade value? I think Moochie sucks, mo. I think KT has proven that he can be a decent 4 if given PT. I don't think we should give him PT. It's going to slow the development of EG, our future 4 who has great attributes to his game. We don't need Collier either. Trade Moochie Norris, Kenny Thomas, Jason Collier for Stromile Swift, Shane Battier We'll need a backup pt... but I haven't thought about it any further. This trade works out
You point out our most pressing problem - not the personnel, but the direction of it. Sure Mobes and KT and Mooch shoot and dribble too much and our guards don't play D, but these are somewhat correctable problems that can worked through if the coaching staff would just start disciplining players and giving them offensive/defensive systems to be effective in. We could bring Shaq or KG in here and the guards would still be dribbling out the clock and jacking up shots. Rudy needs to start earning his pay.
It's about time somebody said it, how come we can never lose a game because the other team was just better? Maybe it's just me, but the fact that they were 11-0 before we played them makes them the best team in league IMHO. I mean come on, Finley was hitting 3's like crazy, Dirk was dropping turnaround J's like he was Jordan, and Najera took Ming to school in the 4th quarter. You guys can keep b****ing all you want, but I think the fact that the Mavs have improved over the last 4 years, making the Playoffs in the last 2 and being unbeaten now makes them the better team and better teams usually win. If you guys want to listen to some reason, check this out. The Mavs started to get better as Dirk began to take his game to another level. That happened during his 2nd and 3rd seasons. At the same time a guy who had been a very good player, Finley, and a guy who steadily improved, Nash, were on the same team with him. You put those 3 together and you have the great team that they are now. So my question is, who else sees the similarities? Hmmm, tall and talented young player, could that be Ming? Hmmm, guard who is already a star, hmmm, could that be Steve? Hmmm, a player who continues to improve every year that he's been in the league, could that be Mobley? Show some patience, this team will make the playoffs this year and next year, they will have a shot at making the finals, truuuust me
I really hate that phrase... 'take [name here] game to another level' its pretty much jumped the shark. But, yeah I agree, the Mavs right now are a better team. Rocks have the better players but not the better team.
Clutch, I know that you can ban me, but your post was uncalled for. I would like to lay a couple F.A.R.T.S. on your face.
He will definitely except being AN shooting guard. Edit: I hate when people pick out the small things in a good post. I can't figure out why I wanted to do it.
Clutch, I was and still of the opinion that we do not need a trade. Of all the problems you can think of that this team has, trade is the more difficult of solutions. I do not buy in that KT does not fit. I certainly do not buy in that Mobley does not fit. I would not move KT for making a bigger commitment to EG. Instead of trading, we should show some patience. The oven is working fine and the turkey is just not ready. Taking it out now to put it in a microwave will not give you that golden turkey. Despite our loss last night I have no doubt that this team is special, as is, and will deliver plenty sooner rather than later. In fact if we were in a seven game playoff series with Dallas right now and last night was game one, I would say that Dallas would be in big trouble. Very soon you will see how everybody fits with Ming.
Amen, Clutch. I totally agree with what you say about Mobley and KT. Kenny is not good at taking shots from perimeter and he can't play the D like EG. Mobley does not have the mental game and he learns very slowly.
Someone needs to make sure they get a message through during the next "live chat" session with David Aldridge and/or Jack Ramsey on ESPN.com. Or call the local sports radio talk show in Houston and add some fuel to the fire.
You can believe in Cat all you want, but at least get the facts straight...he's had 3 bad games and also played bad against the sonics if it wasn't for the prayers he made at the end of the game when it didn't matter. That makes 4, plus last night's game...5. 5 bad games in 10, thats doesn't sound like a knee jerk reaction to me. Do you think its knee jerk to say that moochie sucks and we should get rid of him? Or do we all suck for thinking that too?
Trade???? Answer this! I believe Les Alexander is convinced he has given Rudy T. the players needed to mold this team into champions. Rudy is in some ways untouchable because the Rockets would really have to crater for Les to make a coaching change. However the responsibility is for Rudy to step back and look at the overall top 8-9 players and decide how to form a winning team. Now I ask each of you to step back and tell me why you couldn't develop a winning rotation with a strong frontcourt and backcourt- Ming, Taylor, Griffin, Cato, KT, Rice, Hawk, Collins, Morris, Nachbar This is an impressive group- deep and talented- but how do you play them and win? What offense and defense best suits this group? Steve, Cat, Norris- Wow not much depth here. But definately some big time talent. Maybe Hawk could swing to the backcourt and provide some depth? Still we should be able to win with Steve Francis and Cat. Now you are Les Alexander and you are sitting down with Rudy T, what do you tell him?
Add a pick to the deal if you must - maybe even 1 first and a couple of 2nds, but that would be Christmas comes early!
This team is set. Get used to it. These guys are going to be here for a long time. I don't think you will see a trade for about 3 years. Thomas is probably the only core player who might leave.
You can argue the pros and cons of this trade -- I think the pros are on our side -- but everyone here should take note of two important developments it signifies: 1. We're now stacked enough in terms of talent to offer other teams really good players and still have plenty left over. In other words, when it comes to the trading market, we're now in the game. 2. We can now see the true franchise players around whom we must build. That's what happened a decade ago when Rudy realized Hakeem was the linchpin. As of last night's game, it's becoming very clear that if you don't fit in with Yao Ming, Houston isn't the place for you.
