I have a proposition. HOW ABOUT.... We all agree to cease this pointless argument and not say one word about McGrady until he plays. Let's focus on the 14 other guys on our team. The ones that are actually playing right now.. What do you guys think? Should I 'threaderize' this?
He was saying how if he had Pierce's supporting cast, he'd have won a titled too. I don't have the exact quote saved, but I'm sure some other poster does. No worries though, I'm sure you'll find some way to trivialize/discredit it. McGrady went out of his way to sabotage the team's trading aspirations. Marbury, Jackson, Owens....for whatever problems they had, they still went out and performed when asked to...can't say the same thing about McGrady.
Will "Owner X" play a part in deciding McGrady's destination? http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmonsnflpicks/part1/091023&sportCat=nba
Can you honestly say that you're going places with this argument? Who have you won over? If anything, you've made some enemies with one particular arrogant post.
Nope, pretty sure I haven't won over anyone. McGrady apologists are generally both ignorant and stubborn. It's an unfortunate combination. Won't stop me from trying though...
That quotation above is not for entertainment......and it is exactly what I have been saying, and what Morey said in a Presser earlier about taking advantage of cash strapped franchises. DD
I think if you don't like it you should ignore it. And, I also think it would NEVER happen, though ShangrilaGARM would be nice. DD
That's what some people on the forum are not able to understand. They think any deal involving McGrady will have the other team looking to trade purely from a talent standpoint. These same people think McGrady will somehow come back at 30 years old, post microfracture surgery and be on the level of Kobe, Lebron, Wade and a few others. That's why we still have people here insisting he will be resigned this summer by the Rockets. Their thought process is "why trade an MVP candidate unless you're going to get one in return?" The reality is: 1. Teams often do (and will increasingly) make deals purely for financial reasons. Take a look around. One-sided deals are made all the time just so someone can save $$$ 2. McGrady is not a superstar. He has not been in the Lebron, Wade, Kobe discussion in years. So the Rockets do not need a superstar in return to get the better end of the deal talent wise. I don't understand why people think you have to get a top 10 NBA player in return for McGrady. I think it might be based on the overrating of Tracy's abilities/health to begin with. For those of us who see his age, his injury history, conditioning and his comments it's not hard to realize his best days are behind him and even his best days didn't get the job done.
When it takes 10 guys coming out of left field to argue with one. It's a no brainer who's winning the arguments.
tell that to daryl morey. he has repeatedly said we're not trading mcgrady unless we get an established all-star or a guy who has the ability to become an all-star. that's how some on this board get the notion that he's not going to be traded anytime soon b/c tracy will NOT net us anybody near all-star level, unless he comes back and regains his form.
did u miss the drama in New York when Marbury refused to play?. There is a reason why terrell owens isnt playing with Dallas this year. There is a reason why Steven jackson is suspended. You are wrong if you think the definition of a cancer is a guy who isnt able to perform, due to health. There are other variables that come into play when labeling a guy as a cancer. Oh, and i want the quote of when he said that about Pierces's supporting cast so i can see how you overreacted. Its kinda hard to go out and perform when you are injured and its an injury that keeps nagging your ability to be effective on the court. You think a healthy mcgrady is gonna say no, im not gonna play?. The mcgrady of last year was bad, and we all saw that and mcgrady admits that, what good whould it have been to ANYBODY for mcgrady to keep playing the way he did knowing the injury was holding him back? I think you are the one showing the ignorance with that last post
your first sentence, you havent backed it up with anything reasonable except some scheme of speculation, and this part, for what ever problems they had they still perfomed. Ok let me ask you this? Can you honestly call a person a cancer because they TRIED to play hurt. Then when they find out its not working they decide to shut it down. I dont recall any body from the houston rockets organization telling mcgrady he HAS to play through it. again mcgrady isnt the only person making decisions here.
You know very well what I mean. But, if your post makes you happy so be it. Whatever makes you happy guy.
did wekko just say tmac is more of a cancer than marbury and owens? he admitted he hated tmac way before last year, but man, that's a lot. marbury went out to perform when asked to? now that's wrong factually and logically. owens is so bad as a teammate he gets ripped by ESPN a new one every week. i feel sorry for him at times. but wait, tracy gets the same treatment? wekko, cancer must be such a broad term for you. if tracy is so bad, the team wouldn't want to be anywhere close to being associated with the guy. this is the year where the team is developing the young and emerging guys. if he was such a cancer, morey and adelman wouldn't dare let him stunt the growth of those players. he sucked so bad last year that the highest bid for him was dalembert. so if he really was a cancer, they'll just let him expire if they have to and won't even play him. THAT'S WHAT THE KNICKS DID TO MARBURY. they told him to stay home PERMANENTLY.
How sure are you about this statement? Sure enough to make a tipjar wager? Yup...bad relationships w/ teammates and management. Sound like anyone on the Rockets? Wasn't he only suspended for preseason games? I thought he was suiting up against the Rockets? When did I say this? If he was so "injured", why did multiple doctors tell him that playing though it would strengthen the knee and make him feel better? Simply put, the guy had an injury that wasn't severe enough for him to miss games. He chose to miss games. It would've been good to the Rockets by allowing them to trade him.
