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Let's not create scapegoats for the Rocket's failures.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, May 9, 2015.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
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    We has fans tend to pile on one person as the source of sports failure.

    Steve Francis, Tracy McGrady, JVG, McHale so on and so forth the list goes on. I see it happening now that Harden is becoming next in line for that.

    Look, this isn't on one person. One person isn't going to turn us from a team that gets dominated in the 2nd round to a championship quality team.

    This team has flaws. A lack of 2nd-ary playmakers. A lack of shooters. A lack pg pressure. A lack of a fluid offense.

    Is that the coaches fault, the GM's fault, or the players fault? Maybe there's blame to be spread around. But putting that focus on one player isn't fair nor productive.
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    The GM hires the coach and acquires all the players. So, the buck stops there. He gets credit for the team doing well, he also gets the blame when they fall short.
     
  3. napalm06

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    Good luck in your quest to tame the emotions of the GARM my friend.

    The GM's ledger must also include the positive things as well, such as putting together the core which will allow us to retool for the next run.

    Not winning the championship can't be the measuring stick. This team has already achieved as much as it has in 15+ years, and there isn't a formula to win the championship.

    We can keep what worked, and retool to fix the weaknesses. Such is the benefit of having two stars in hand.
     
  4. Carl Herrera

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    Sure, but the team seems to be always retooling without actually being an actual contender and Morey is constantly saving his bullets to try and win the the summer at the cost of losing the spring.

    The team knew that it needed another perimeter player who can create off the dribble and decided to sit on its assets at the deadline. Sure, Dragic might be too expensive a rental, but there were others available who could have helped. Even a fringe playoff team in the East like Boston spent some assets to land them Isaiah Thomas, who could have really helped this team and didn't cost Boston much.

    Dwight Howard's body and his contract do not have that many Morey retooling left in them. While Harden is still young, you never know how many retooling periods that a player's body has in it (see McGrady/Yao/Roy/Rose, etc.).

    Morey says he is the steward for Harden and Howard's career. But he sure hasn't acted like that helping Howard and Harden win a title is his top priority.
     
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    I wonder what those two would have to say about this truthfully.

    Something tells me they that they wouldn't be nearly as hard on Morey as some fans are. I could be wrong though.
     
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    Morey admitted Howard and Harden questioned the team to start the season.

    Right now Harden and Howard and Ariza are the only 3 playing well, so who knows what they are thinking now
     
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    Opportunity is not a lengthy visitor.
     
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    Traded, Traded, Fired, ?
    career decline, career decline, ESPN Analyst, ?
     
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    Back to being a NBATV/TNT analyst.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You are the chief vilifier.

    You love to hate on players / coaches that failed to win a ring.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I'm just curious what Morey could have done that would have made a difference? Isiah Canaan? Guy definitely was a liability on defense.

    Morey went for his 3rd star and we didn't get them. That's how it goes. We started this season as a bad team that was on the playoff bubble. Somehow we managed to get to this point and win 56 games despite all the injuries.

    Harden was 2nd in MVP voting, and yet fans here are saying he is the reason we are failing and getting blown out by 30. It's ridiculous.

    People rip McHale apart. But he got us the 2nd seed with half-hearted defender Harden, a flawed superstar center who shoots 40% fts and can't box out Jordan, a reject from another team in Josh Smith, a journeyman in Corey Brewer, a has-been in Terry and Prags, the ever unimpressive 3&D guy in Ariza, and Terrence Jones.

    Morey did what les wanted. He built a great team without going through a major rebuild. You can't blame him for not having the chips and cash to build beyond what he has.

    It's just the way it works out. It's freaking hard to build a championship team. Only one in 30 teams gets to be the champion. A lot of things have to go right to do that. You have to get Tim Duncan in the draft. Or Lebron James. Or have your number one pick be buddies with Lebron James.

    I am happy with the job Morey, McHale, and company has done. We're just not good enough to seriously compete at this level yet.
     
  12. Carl Herrera

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    Goran Dragic and Isaiah Thomas were available and could have helped exploit Rivers and a hobbled Chris Paul. Ramon Sessions was being dumped by the Kings and could have helped. Aaron Brooks could have been signed in the offseason for cheap but the organization decided to bet on Canaan and soon regretted that, too u

    Was there literally no better perimeter creator available than Pablo Prigioni?
     
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    Sessions sure helped the Wiz last game against the Hawks. Prigs on court leadership and defensive IQ is much better than Sessions. Sure he would've scored points but?
     
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    Saturday morning point-guarding. How neat.

    Missing a point guard already, the adequate guy we had (Bev) is injured. Our backup/bubble starting PF Dmo is out.

    We already matched up pretty poorly with the Clippers. There's lots of "blame" to go around for a playoff blowout, but... let's see how the rest of the series goes first. For realsies.

    A handful of weeks ago I was fully prepared for the Rockets to head into the playoffs on the road vs. the Clips or Spurs and possibly exit in the 1st round. As Doc said the other week, there were 4 incredible teams going home in the West after that 1st round.

    First division banner in ages. Better record than last season (even considering the crippling injuries, as was pointed out). Better postseason result than the last 5 seasons (and this one's not even over yet!)

    Everybody relax.
     
  15. RESINator

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    Scapegoat implies that blame is being misplaced when in actuality it is not. No one on the rockets is being scapegoated. Facts are facts. The fact is we are garbage and lack heart.
     
  16. CometsWin

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    There's failing to win a ring and then there's failing to have the credibility of a contender.

    Too often adjustments are slow in coming. Too often, the team is not ready to play. Too often, the team lacks "energy" and "effort". Too often... far too often.

    It isn't even really about the results on the scoreboard, it's about how they play and why they fail. The most talented team in the league will not win a title if adjustments are slow in coming, if the team is not ready to play on game days, if the team consistently lacks energy and effort.
     
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    Morey was offered Plumlee and Thomas for DMo and our Knicks second round pick and turned it down. That one move that was not made may have cost us a championship. That has always been Morey's story, get us competitive and always going for the big 3 instead of putting the final pieces on what he already has. I also heard that he is waiting 2 years for Durant.....Groundhog Day all over again.
     
  18. solid

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    I feel like Morey just blew the point guard situation (going all the way back to letting Dragic walk and resigning Lin) as he did the back up center position. Dorsey? Seriously? Each case is a major head scratcher. Cudo's for bringing in Brewer and Smith; however, they apparently suck at playoff basketball.
     
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    And everything you mention is largely coaching.
     
  20. Carl Herrera

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    Brewer and Smith are fine. They just have the same issue as almost all the other guys on the team: cant really create off the dribble and make plays more than occasionally against crappy D.

    The roster is too much of a monoculture. It needs more diversity of skills.
     

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