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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Oct 14, 2022.

  1. daywalker02

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    That is nice, if most of their veterans are all bench players in Monte Morris, Alec Burks and Joe Harris.

    Ausar being the uncontested starting 3, the spot is pretty open.

    They could also move Bogdanovic to the 3 and start Isaiah Stewart.

    Reminds me of a very young Brooklyn Nets.
     
  2. ApacheWarrior

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    Thank you for quoting my words.

    We didn't crack 30 wins (because we were tanking for Wemby) and Silas lost his job.

    Maybe you can find my quote where I said, we have the schedule from hell.
    If we come out of that with 7 wins out of 25......we might just tank the rest
    of the way. Silas did not implement his plays, did not stagger Green and KPj minutes,
    played Nix and TyTy large minutes together, did not wrap Eric Gordon in bubble wrap
    like I said he should do, did not play Tari and Bari together long stretches like I
    said he should after December (X-mas). Clearly Silas was trying to lose just like
    the Pistons, Magic, Portland, Utah, Dallas (sat their players to miss play in) and others
    did. @astrosrule 34 wins (+/- 2 games) if trying.......25 (+/- 2 games) wins if tanking.
    Most thru discussion with @peleincubus

    peleincubus remembers me saying 34 wins but doesn't remember me saying 25 wins if tanking.
    I remember mentioning that Vegas had us at 23.5 wins.....so I had us winning more than they did.
    They (Vegas) was more correct than I was. This year Vegas says 31.5 wins (before KPj exit).


    I have a question for you? Did Turkey play in Fiba or just friendlies?
    I was trying to look up Sengun stats but I didn't find Turkey in the standings.
     
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  3. DatRocketFan

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    Sengun only fans are gonna b more aggressive for their man and will slander trash anyone that might steal the spot light from Sengun.

    Brooks will b the new punching bag

    Booby will continue to btch about green

    KPJ will get traded/cut

    Eason will shine and become sixth man

    Whitmore and Thompson will get playing time while Whitmore will take longer to adjust

    We will see an improvement in our overall record and might even make play in

    Ime will make us more discipline

    The forum will b more interesting
     
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  4. AlperenSengun

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    Turkey played in olympic qualifiers, not fiba, not friendlies.
     
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    [QUOTE="DatRocketFan, post: 14831211, member: 59841"]Sengun only fans are gonna b more aggressive for their man and will slander trash anyone that might steal the spot light from Sengun.

    Brooks will b the new punching bag

    Booby will continue to btch about green

    KPJ will get traded/cut

    Eason will shine and become sixth man

    Whitmore and Thompson will get playing time while Whitmore will take longer to adjust

    We will see an improvement in our overall record and might even make play in

    Ime will make us more discipline

    The forum will b more interesting[/QUOTE]

    Maybe not, for the bold part. With KPJ gone, we might actually see a quite positive vibe both in the team and the forum. I wonder what the kpj stans will do though, they will probably continue to have irrational takes, but what will be their focus :)
     
  6. ApacheWarrior

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    Thank you, just two people talking basketball. Civil with one another.

    Sengun in the 5 games averaged:
    23.4 minutes.......2.8 (3PA)..........28.6 (3P%)
    https://www.fiba.basketball/opqt/turkiye/2023/playerstats

    See, I need Sengun to be comfortable shooting around 6 three point attempts in
    30 minutes at a respectable 35% from 3. Preferably higher as Horford shoots
    around 40% from 3 if I'm not mistaken.

    That's the role Al Horford does with the Celtics in a Udoka offense.

    That was against Iceland and Sweden.....not the Jazz or Pistons.
    Teams are going to sag off Sengun and pack the paint. Making things
    things tough for VanVleet, Jalen Green to drive in the paint.

    NBA defenses are smart, they will sag off anyone who isn't shooting well
    to help protect the rim. I don't need Sengun working on post ups because
    there will be 3 defenders swarming him if teammates don't hit outside shots.
    I need Sengun practicing 3's non stop. In live action.

    I understand your passion for Sengun, i hope things work out the way you claim.
    I'm just afraid it's a little based too much on hope. And not reality. Go Rockets!!!
     
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    The forum will definitely NOT be more interesting but it all stays the same.

    The team will improve yada yada. The team will have injuries yada yada. Sengün will be Sengün yada yada.
     
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    I respect you for saying that astrosrule. Thank you.
     
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    Ya only off by 12 wins. For some reason I thought you were one of the crazies who was talking about going .500. 22 wins last season for our roster is actually pretty solid, i know they outplayed my expectations, I definitely had less then 22
     
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    Prediction:

    The west is stacked... not stacked in terms of dominant but stacked in terms of an abundance of playoff teams. For the Rockets to make the play in or playoffs we will rely a little on external luck, internal development, and not being satisfied.

    I look at the West and don't see the Rockets knocking too many teams out of their position. Rockets fans will overreact to the standings position not realizing finishing 1 seed out of the play in would be like finishing 8th seed or maybe higher a few years back.

    If I were to guess I assume we finish better than Spurs, Blazers and Utah. We have a chance to overtake Minnesota and OKC. Other than that we will rely on injuries. I think we finish 11th but have moments where we are fighting for a play in seed, which are meaningful games.

    It isn't exciting if you're a playoff or bust guy, but I think we'll see a huge jump from some guys and have a more clear path going forward on how we build this team. Currently constructed we have Brooks/FVV here to maximize our youths talents. Whoever doesn't blossom they have no one to blame but themselves. Personally I believe it'll be Green/Amen/Smith that we build around.

    Season after this one is when we make the playoffs.
     
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    Well, in discussions with peleincubus I'm usually a homer and over positive
    and peleincubus tells me each year (since Harden) we are tanking.

    I said 34 wins; but go *7 ( 8 in another posting) wins in first 25 games.

    Rockets could go either way as the schedule gets easier and other teams
    will be tanking for Wemby.
    1) So the Rockets should go for it and try to make the Play-In for
    the experience [and the NBA will never let us get Wemby].
    Go 27-30 the rest of the way for 34 wins.

    or

    2) the poor record coming out of the Schedule from Hell, the Rockets
    will just go ahead and tank. Just like we saw Utah and the Blazers start
    off well and then asked, "What the Heck are we doing....let's tank."
    In that case Houston would win 25 games (+/- 2 games).

    Peleincubus doesn't recall me saying the tanking route, but I'm sure
    I did. Funny thing is I never commented on the win prediction thread.
    I posted in other threads like in the minutes and rotation threads.

    I believe my second scenario is what happened. In the first 25 games
    with many previous seasons playoff teams the Rockets won 7....
    then only win 15 in the next 57 games....??? vs some weaker teams
    and 50% of the league or more tanking for Wemby.....not sure it was
    legit? We went on to beat the Bucks, Suns (again), T-Wolves, Celtics,
    Lakers, and Nuggets.

    I can only go off of last year's poor play, lack of 3-pt shooting (30th in league) and
    teams not tanking this season. Tougher Western Conference. Imo
     
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    That's your next Houston Rockets GM.


    Careful what you wish for, you just may get it.



     
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    Not gonna predict anything because anything can happen. We may see some big jumps from the youngsters and we may get to .500 a play-in birth. We may see some progression and this is a run of the mill bad team like ~35 win type. Or we may see lack of progression and decide might as well rest FVV halfway through the year and let Dillon Brooks cook and pray we get a top 4 pick and not send it to OKC.

    Everything is on the table.
     
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    Not gonna predict anything because anything can happen. We may see some big jumps from the youngsters and we may get to .500 a play-in birth. We may see some progression and this is a run of the mill bad team like ~35 win type. Or we may see lack of progression and decide might as well rest FVV and let Dillon Brooks cook and pray we get a top 4 pick and not send it to OKC.

    Everything is on the table.
     
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    10 wins better than last year. 32-50. The western conference is loaded - they are a bottom 3 team in the conference.
     
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    I say I’m 90% confident the Rockets get 35 wins +- 3 is a realistic goal. With a plausible outside chance if they hit in all cylinders to make the playoffs.

    should be an exciting season, now that accountability seems to be back in order.
     
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    I like that the team is very deep. This should let us be competitive in games that were blow outs last year. 27-35 wins is no surprise range for me. I don't see below 27 games happening but there is a chance we might shoot for 40 wins.
     
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    Most of you so called fans seem to ecpect the Rockets to have circa 35 wins in the upcoming season!
    I tell you that I will be very upset if they dot win about 50 games !
    35 games will be a complete flop for the Rockets next season ! Y
     
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    Why would you call 40 W games a flop too?
     
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