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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by samtaylor, Mar 26, 2015.

  1. samtaylor

    samtaylor Member

    May 18, 2014
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    The Rockets were on the verge of signing Chris Bosh to a max deal, then matching the Mavericks offer sheet for Chandler Parsons. On paper, our starting line-up would have been insane:

    PG - Beverley
    SG - Harden
    SF - Parsons
    PF - Bosh
    C - Howard

    Now I am not by any means a cap specialist, but if we would've gotten Bosh/Parsons, then I don't think we could have signed Josh Smith, nor do I think the Rockets would've been interested. (Having Bosh/TJones/Dmo).

    I know we got Jason Terry and Corey Brewer in a trade, but I do not know if the Rockets could've still gotten these guys if the signed Bosh/Parsons.

    And it goes beyond saying that if we re-signed Parsons, we wouldn't have Trevor Ariza.

    So our bench MIGHT have been like this:

    PG - Caanan
    SG - Nick Johnson
    SF- Francisco Garcia
    PF - TJones
    C - DMo/Dorsey?

    With all the injuries the Rockets have had this year, if you add Bosh's lungs and Parsons missing 2 weeks in Feb/March, I would be surprised if Houston makes the playoffs. We wouldn't have Ariza/Smith and possibly no Terry/Brewer.

    DMo never progresses. Parsons proves he will never be an all-star. McHale might not get that extension. We have no cap space to sign ANY high profile free agents in 2015/2016....the list goes on and on.

    Perhaps Morey is more active at the deadline, but the real life Heat didn't know about Bosh's lungs until a few days after the deadline this year. So if by chance Morey pulls the switch on a Dragic for Dmo/NOP pick, then the next day you find out Bosh is out for the year, you're only bigs are an unhealthy TJones and Dwight...

    Obviously a lot of "what if"s and assumptions, but a very possible outcome.

    So the next time you complain that JSMOOVE can't buy a shot, or that DMo is soft at rebounding, or Jason Terry is garabage...just remember we dodged two HUGE bullets in Bosh and Parsons.

    20/20 is hindsight, but if Pat Riley didn't overpay for Bosh at the last second, the Rockets would be royally screwed not just this year, but for years to come, wasting away Harden's prime in the process.
  2. mig0s

    mig0s Member

    Feb 26, 2008
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    Starters look awesome on paper but our bench will get outscored by any WNBA team
  3. Spacemoth

    Spacemoth Contributing Member

    Jul 30, 2007
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    Impossible to say what would have happened. You can't guarantee those injuries would play out the same, neither for Bosh nor Dwight nor Beverley nor TJ. And with Parsons our offense would undoubtedly be more efficient.
  4. samtaylor

    samtaylor Member

    May 18, 2014
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    I'm pretty sure Bosh's lungs were non-basketball related, and would've happened no matter what. But I agree Howard, TJones, Bev could be either way.
  5. WinkFan

    WinkFan Contributing Member

    Feb 12, 2002
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    Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
  6. shastarocket

    shastarocket Contributing Member

    Jul 18, 2006
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    Blood clots and how are you so sure?

    Should we also be rejoicing over "dodging the bullet" of Shved's broken ribs?

  7. HouStu_Rocket

    HouStu_Rocket Member

    Dec 17, 2013
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    Lol funny :) but definitely an exaggeration. WNBA probably couldn't beat men's college teams (decently ranked) lol
  8. Zoplicone

    Zoplicone Member

    Feb 23, 2013
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    First of all, I bet you anything we would have still made the playoffs. A rocket always steps up from nowhere to help us win some regular season games. Unfortunately come playoff time they usually die out. Harden has been doing a tremendous job and give or take a few losses, he probably would have still led us to a decent record with crappier players around him.

    Secondly, you make it seem like Parsons missed most of the season. He's played most of his games.
  9. RocketsJumer

    RocketsJumer Member

    Jan 31, 2013
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    Way too many if's and what could have beens going back even to last offseason.

    If we had gotten Bosh and resigned Parsons, who knows what else Morey had planned after those moves.

    Maybe he tries to move Jones/Dmo right then for some asset to shore up the bench.

    Maybe Morey uses the NOP pick more aggressively and settles for a third tier point guard (DJ Augustin-like).

    Maybe Bosh doesn't get injured in Houston like he did in Miami.

    Maybe Howard doesn't get injured here. Maybe Harden gets hurt instead.

    Maybe Jones doesn't have that freak nerve injury, if we kept him.

    List can go on and on.

    One thing is for certain though. Signing Bosh and resigning Parsons would have made any other trade/signing near impossible to do as we would be at or near the hard cap with just our starting line-up. So unless there were some vets chasing rings and wanting to go to Houston (than going to other contenders like the Clippers, Cavs, etc.) our bench would be made up of rookies and young players (Daniels, Cannan, Capela, Johnson) or iffy vets (Garcia).

    I don't know about others but I'm perfectly happy with where our team is at now. Of course, a secondary playmaker, better three point shooters and an actual back-up center who in at least 6'11" would have been great but I think we can win with this team. We need to hope Bev can play, Jones can get back, Howard can become a top 5 center by the playoffs and we can shoot better than 35% from 3 in the playoffs but we can win with this team.
  10. photojoe

    photojoe Member

    Jul 2, 2013
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    Hindsight is 20/20. You never know what would have happened. On paper, the lineup of Bev/Harden/Parsons/Bosh/Howard looks to be pretty great. But we will never know how that would have actually played out.

    In reality, I am so glad that it worked out the way that it did. We have the best, deepest team that I can remember watching for a long time.
  11. Alvin Choo

    Alvin Choo Member

    Aug 11, 2007
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    so many what if,
    My fav what if scenario would be having a sign and trade for Lowry. Lin + asik being facilitated in signing Melo.

    Still could see loads of smaller deals to fill up the bench.
  12. rocketsballin

    rocketsballin Member

    Nov 23, 2012
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    first of all, u dunno what injuries would happen.

    we wouldnt need josh smith if we had bosh and parsons. jones, dmo and dorsey off the bench is plenty depth at the 4/5. canaan would make a good enough backup pg. backup wings would be the biggets weakness

    since offense wasnt a problem going into this season, in dec/jan morey cuold've traded parsons for a 3/d starting sf and some wing depth. could've done other trades too, or signed some players.
  13. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

    May 12, 2009
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    Rockets sign Bledsoe.
  14. IvanLCPM

    IvanLCPM Member

    Jan 21, 2014
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    that would be a better team even though i like our chances now
  15. donkeypunch

    donkeypunch Contributing Member

    Dec 8, 2013
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    Go back to July 11, 2012; when we almost hitched our truck to the Eric Gordon max contract trailer. I dont know if we trade for Harden in the same year if we wouldve went that route. Im just glad to have the team we have now, even with its flaws, mainly cause Harden covers those blemishes.

    Eric Gordon! Let that resonate in y'alls heads....
  16. CDrex

    CDrex Contributing Member

    Feb 26, 2009
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    Here's the thing though - yes, it would be very difficult to secure year 1 depth after adding a third and fourth 8-figure guy to your cap. But with a starting lineup that powerful, guys start throwing themselves at you for the chance to be your depth and win a ring with you. Year 1 Heat had no depth or bench play - but then they started hauling in the Ray Allens and the Shane Battiers for practically free. That has to be part of the plan of any cap-clogging superstar teamup.

    I like the current team and I'm glad we didn't get stuck paying Parsons 150% of his value. But it's easy to scoff at the missed opportunity and forget - Chris Bosh would have been the best possible third best player for this team given his unique combination of shooting, defense, and low ego.
  17. vator

    vator Contributing Member

    Jun 30, 2006
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    No reason to even think about this. Different moves would have been made to fill out the roster.

    One other note, if my memory serves me correctly, it was said that we would likely have to move DMo and/or TJ in order to accommodate Bosh's contract demands. Whether or not we would have to move them both hinged on him wanting as much as we could offer him. Maybe we try harder to bring in a guy like Ed Davis. That would be best case scenario...or maybe Jeff Adrien would have been forced into being a rotation player. Who know?
  18. jscmedia

    jscmedia Contributing Member

    Feb 14, 1999
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    Sometimes the best Deal is the One you Didn't Do ! Thank goodness parsons is an ass.

    Night and Day total teams...............
  19. rocketsmetalspd

    Jul 1, 2002
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    Too may what ifs but I like the fact that this bench is way better than last years bench. I hope good health finds the team in time for the playoffs and the team can finally have a full roster to contend for the Chip.
  20. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Nov 1, 2008
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    You guys are working on the premise that Morey would have left the bench alone. He is always tinkering.

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