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lets give adelman some credit

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by denniscd, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. ktvoss

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    Probability tells you to just go ahead jump off a cliff if they are shooting late in the fourth. I choose Yao and I'm dead right after the Spurs game and choose Tracy and I am dead right after the Sonics game. You are asking me a suicide question. That's like asking me would I rather sleep with a woman that has aids or a women that has every other STD besides aids?
     
  2. ktvoss

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    Logic and the basic man's understanding is not always the way to go it's those who are set apart that succeed in most situations. I understand heart, desire and winning at the end of games. I back up Adelmans decisions at the end of the previous 3 games. We have won them I will leave it at that.
     
  3. choujie

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    No man. Choose Yao you wouldn't have 85% chance to survive, maybe higher after hitting 14/15 on that night,most likely you are fine now. Choose Tmac only 65%, likely to be lower after hitting 1/4 on that particular night before that, dead after that.
     
  4. choujie

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    To the original poster:

    I'll give RA credit when we are in 2nd round playoffs.
     
  5. ktvoss

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    At the end of the day we will see if Adelman's logic helps us get out the first round. The reason a lot of teams don't make it is because they don't take the necessary risks to learn so they can make mistakes and at other times succeed. Then when the time of truth comes you know who you are. On elite teams you have players that do that not just the coaches. Rick did it last game and T-mac confidently blew two free throws but we were successful. Both Yao and Tracy have blew free throws late in games this year and we have won and lost games that is good for our team. If we use basic logic all through the year and be safe we will get the same continued result that we got with JVG which is first round and out and if you don't have enough logic to understand that then that's just fine.
     
  6. ktvoss

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    If you are talking about a particular night then guys have on and off nights you choose the guy that is on that night. If percentages were that deep this team would have been out the first round a long time ago. I understand what people are thinking on this board and that's cool my mindset is win by any means necessary but learn throughout the season to be ready for the playoffs AND BE CLUTCH. Because in the playoffs percentages, logic and all that crap lets you down because it's about who wants it more and who has more inside and those teams in 94 and 95 had it but they had weird percentages and hit shots that weren't always logical shots they had it but the team we have today don't seem ready for that kind of pressure and that kind of pressure is what every individual player on this rockets team should be getting prepared for. So ironically I am glad Yao and Tracy are missing shots now instead of logically getting it done and somehow blowing logic when it gets to the playoffs. But it's step by step process we have to get in the top 8 in the west.
     
  7. Kyakko

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    i congratulate you on efforts to tie irrelevant matters together to try and make a case. yao should be demanding the ball from tmac then RA. TMAC making clutch field goals during the last few minutes. Yao getting fouled if he gets the ball. somehow that all ties to a PARTICULAR situation where there's 16 seconds left, you have the lead and all you need is a good free thrower to get the ball. you're a freak'n lawyer man. i'm done.
     
  8. ktvoss

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    Where was Yao to get the ball is that a logical question? Or does Rick Adelman have the video game controllers to move him to the ball so he can get fouled? I always get to the point of what I am talking about and the root of being a rockets fan right now is this team getting to the playoffs and being clutch in it and this involves our two superstars that haven't been clutch in the playoffs enough obviously to advance all of this is relevant every little detail adds up to a big ol main idea. Didn't you go to school to learn logic?
     
  9. zerhoe

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    Dude you're one funny kid. You're saying Yao should go ballistic and do a Rasheed? Wave off the coach and call your own fricken play?

    Not to mention you sighted the last second free throw in the Lakers game as an example before quickly back peddling and laughing it off - you obviously didn't watch the game because only a moron would count that as part of his exhibit.

    Then you skew your argument and flip it around to try make yourself look less silly.

    So please stop commenting about logic because clearly you're lacking in the same department. I mean, it wasn't a hard question: If you had to choose someone to shoot free throws to save your life? Yao or Tracy? Not hard to answer when considering %. But no, give us your crappy STD analogy instead.
     
  10. Spacemoth

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    I'm pretty sure Phil Jackson did something similar at the end of the third quarter last year against us, right after Kobe "removed himself" from the game.
     
  11. Kyakko

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    wtf... wow. okay, let's play your game.

    i'm happy you're rooting the team. i'm so glad you want us to go to the superbowl... errr playoffs. i'm also bummed that our two superstars haven't been clutch.

    [stewie's voice]i guess you're like the big picture type of guy eh? ya know... let the other people worry about the details.... throw in a life learning lesson here or there[/stewie's vioce]
     
  12. Yetti

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    Such Rubbish!!!!!! I am beginning to think you are Adelman or one of his coaches, or possibly his publicity manager!!! :p
    Coach A had done so little and it is far too early in his Rockets career for the players to have become so attached to him that they would win one for the 'Gipper' as it were!!
    Player self pride and Tracy McGrady wanting to silence all the dreadful things which have been said about him recently. caused our victory. :p
    Not to say that I am not hoping for more from our coach, because I am! :p
     
  13. ktvoss

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    Okay you are not understanding my point here. All I am saying is late in games you have a decision to go to the player who is hott or go to the player with the best percentage. The coach went to the player that was hott and THE PLAYER THAT WANTED IT and that player blew it. Percentage wise I know it is more probable to go to the player with the higher percentage but that doesn't make it 100% guaranteed that that player will hit both free throws at that time. Many times throughout many playoff games this has been the case. Kevin Johnson missed a crucial free throw against Houston in '95 for example after making darn near every shot he put up throughout the game for Pheonix against us in that crucial playoff game. That's just a example and there's many more. Just don't fault Rick after a win and this decision because what goes on in the locker room and between these players, the trust and the situation this team is in as a whole is the reason why Tracy took those free throw shots. Yao will get his chance again and might make them. Everyone knows Yao is the better free throw shooter percentage wise.
     
  14. Kyakko

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    I actually think RA's a good coach. I've been a kings fan since the days of the laker/king's rivalry (lost 100 dollars on that horry clutch shot). I was even a fan years after that, when most of the king's fans were asking for his head. Given that...

    RA made a mistake during particular play against the sonics. He's still a good coach over all.
     
  15. ktvoss

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    Okay I'm not on this board to make a a&% out of anyone or myself. I am very passionate about this team just as you are. Your a funny guy and you might think the same about me but when it comes to the rockets I saw insanity doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result. Now things are changing. I'm not a NBA coach nor do I want to be but I know I have a good idea about this team desperately needing to do certain things, take certain risks and make certain mistakes to ultimately get to the the playoffs and succeed and until it happens it's either no playoffs or first round and out. I'm excited about the rockets because I see some risks being taken, hustling and we are winning. When Carl Herrera missed those two free throws in 94 against Golden State and Vernon Maxwell threw that lucky darn shot up and went in that was called bad coaching by many but at time guys were doing certain things, taking certain risks ect.. and everything turned out good at the end.
     
  16. ktvoss

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    lol lol
     
  17. Kyakko

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    glad i entertain you.. but for the other posters...

    I should elaborate on why I think RA's a good coach. During his tenure with the King's during their hey day, the team didn't have alot of superstar talent. Webber was overrated as superstar even back then. He was always injured and he was horrible during crunch time. Bibby was good (especially clutch) but again... he wasn't a superstar, same with Divac. What RA will do for this team hopefully, is to put everyone's natural skills together and make the sum worth more than the parts. I also think he's much better at pairing up match ups than JVG.
     
  18. kjayp

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    Rick Addle-minded .... as long as Alston is loggin 30+ minutes. He may have flashes, he may have marginal stretches, but Raef will never take us to the promised land - wish i was wrong.
     
  19. DonkeyMagic

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    :D

    my thoughts exactly.

    1) Alston wont take the rockets there...that's tmacs and yaos job. Rafer can certainly contribute though.

    2) promise land.
     
  20. ekim

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    No one else he can use... not really his fault.

    Brooks only good for 10 mins each game and Head sucks at running the point.
     

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