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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by denniscd, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. choujie

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    Very slim. Yao wasn't in low post at that moment. Since it's already pass the half court, the shot clock is off,Yao doesn't need to dribble, he's the tallest guy, opponents will have no choice but to foul him, I guess.
     
  2. choujie

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    How? All he need to do is put the ball over his head. The shot clock is off. I'd say Tmac has a bigger chance got stolen than Yao lose the ball in that situation.
     
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    Actuall Tmac got stolen in similar situation by Walton against Lakers's double team, because he's not tall enough to protect the ball.
     
  4. bbjai

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    He'd need to get a clean catch first.
    I love Yao

    but honestly, he doesn't have what it takes to catch that. Ill watch the replay again later to see where he was. But the Supes bigs were doing well to deny him the ball all game. Its difficult to see that he would get the ball from an in bonds. Failing to get it to Yao i'd much rather T-mac get it. I just honestly don't have confidence that Yao will get the ball on the inbounds. Its not a knock on him, but general low confidence from both philly games
     
  5. ibm

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    if yao is soooo likely to do a, b, or c, what would he be "the first base covered" and be either doubled or denied the ball? ain't some logical inconsistency here?

    that was an inbound play with us having the lead and within the shot clock after a timeout. if we choose, yao or any rocket can receive the ball at back court and the sonics would still be forced to foul. if an nba team can't come up a play to give the ball to its best ft shooter in that situation, then it's not really an nba team. the only explanation last night was adelman called the play for mcgrady. why he chose to do that is beyond me though.

    get some education, pls.
     
  6. choujie

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    I watched that for you. Thay was a designed play for Tmac to get the ball. Yao didn't even try to get the ball, just set screen for Tmac.

    A bad decision by Ra and it showed.
     
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  8. SuperStar

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    I agree bbjai, They would of probably front Yao and he wouldn't be able to get the ball.
     
  9. choujie

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    Watch the game again please. I'd have no problem with that if Yao is fronted or double teamed and Tmac had to be the 2nd choice.

    The fact is: Kurt Thoma was behind Yao, but all Yao did is to set a screen to get Tmac free. That was a designed play by RA to get Tmac the ball.

    The play design simple is stupid , to say at least.
     
  10. bbjai

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    there is no doubt he called the play for Mcgrady, Im just trying to fathom why. I must admit I've lost confidence in getting the ball to Yao on a critical play. Im all for him taking the shot. But my view is he needs to get the ball first.

    Acutally I would like to know how many plays are called for Yao at the end of the game, when Mcgrady is playing. That would be mighty interesting to me. Yao is hard to call an inbounds play for. If it was so easy we wouldn't have lost the ball 9 times in the Philly game.

    You want Yao to catch the ball in the backcourt? Wow thats a stretch by any imagination. I don't know if that would be the smart play to do. His not particularly quick or fast, so I don't know how you expect Yao to get into position to catch a inbounds pass without a screen. Just too many variables in getting Yao the ball in the first place, McGrady, Rafer they are the safe option in not generating a turnover.
     
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    Ah was that the play? I would suppose then it would be obvious that Yao was setting a screen then and therefore no need to front him at that time.

    The better play would have been screens for Yao, but then if he was covered well enough, who gets the ball in that situation? I would have preferred Novak to screen for T-mac and another guy running a screen for Yao at the same time. Maybe thats getting too complex lols
     
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    Philly games was completely different. They tried to get the ball to Yao DEEP. Yesterday that was not the problem. Yao can get the ball anywhere.
     
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    No. Watch the replay, Thomas was behind Yao and never tried to front him. And Yao never tried to get the ball.

    It's just so obvious that the play was designed for Tmac.
     
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    Really?

    Damn what on earth was Thomas doing? I am really surprised now that you've said that. Amazes me in fact. I would have doubled at least fronted Yao
     
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    And one more thing I don't really like is RA always take Yao out at the end of the game if Rockets lead by a small margin. Yesterday is OK since Thomas was hitting his shots all night long, but most of the time it means giving up instant layups.

    That happened again last night and Durant almost had 2 layups.
     
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    Agreed. I guess rick didnt want Yao on the court on the defensive play(he would be if he shot FT and Sonics didnt call time out) that's why he's not the first option (Novak as well). Of course it's 4 point game if either of them made 2 FT, so i dont know.....
     
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    You're right bbjai usually it does take forever for them to get Yao the ball I think Aldeman realized that and designed the play for Tmac instead. RA didnt want to take that chance.
     
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    Okay I like the challenge lets go to the lakers game we lost earlier this year November 14th at Toyota Center He missed a lot of 4th quarter free throws in that game. This is a game we should have won even without McGrady.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20071114/LALHOU/playbyplay.html#4

    Then there is the fourth quarter game in Houston against Dallas November 21st Yao is shooting two free throws after a flagerant foul and he misses the first free throw and makes the second the score then is 91-86 we go on to lose that game 100-94.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20071121/DALHOU/playbyplay.html#4

    Those are a few games I have been to myself to see and like you said I am not mentioning the spurs game.
     
  19. choujie

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    That's my point in the above post aw well. It's not necessary to take Yao out in the end. Even if Thomas scored again, Yao still had time to hit 2 more FTs.

    He took Yao out, then Durant beat Tmac for a quick layup, and almost another if not for Chuck's block. In the end, Tmac completely lost Durant and let him get a wide open 3 point look.

    I guess Yao can do better than that.

    giving up jump shots usually is better than giving up layups.
     
  20. bbjai

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    I never thought about it that way. But I would have thought there was only one play to go. I concur Yao should be taking the free throws, but I dont know. Does Yao get many last play calls for him during JVG Area?
     

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