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Let Yao take off the rest of the season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by canoner2002, Mar 21, 2006.

  1. Yetti

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    Lampe needs the chance to become an NBA Player!!
     
  2. ShadyMcGrady

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    Sorry if you didn't get it, but it was a slight exaggeration. I was just pointing out how Yao is pretty much playing 1 on 5 right now because he has very minimal help from his team mates. I didn't actually want him playing 1 on 5. All I'm saying is that he will eventually, by having a large role in the offense like this, learn to take over the offense and dominate games. There is no doubt that he has yet to learn the dominant aspect of the game.

    By dominating, I don't mean Yao dunks on everyone every possesion, but I mean he executes so well to the point where he's pretty much unstoppable. Whether that is his baby hooks, fadeaways, mid range J's, spin move, whatever, doesn't matter.

    The Yao/T-Mac chemistry will build up again in time and it will be unstoppable.

    Teams won't be able to effectively double/triple Yao once we get T-Mac back or our guards knock down shots, but he needs the experience dealing with double/triple teams so he can be ready for the future. If he gets injured, he has all offseason. I doubt it would be that serious.
     
  3. noize

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    Right or not, Yao is the only reason people watch, or go to the game, of course they won't rest him.
     
  4. canoner2002

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    I agree with all u said above. But the thing is Yao is not gonna learn any of above when we play like now. Right now, there are 2 or 3 players drapped on him all night long. Opponents were do this in the 2nd half before today's game, and they will do this the whole game from now on seeing how effective it is. What is the point of asking Yao to learn dominate with 2 or 3 guys glued to him, if that is not what is expected when we have tmac back and get some half decent supporting cast? I just don't see much benefit of doing this to justify risking him injured or risking his confidence and momentum going into next season.

    Some injures may hurt you all career. with him taking a beating like now, the risk is too high, and the return is too low.
     
  5. ShadyMcGrady

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    The only thing that would make sitting him justifiable is a severe injury. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see him sustain an injury that could shorten/ruin/plague his career, but I don't think sitting him through double/triple teaming is going to help. Why not sit him everytime he gets doubled/tripled?

    He's not being mobbed out there (outside the norm), he's just not getting any freedom to do what he wants. Like I said, Yao is tough as nails. He's about as soft as Charles Barkley's head. He'll get through it and be better for it.

    The only arguements I think you could pursue are him being injured severely(which is doubtful, but possible) and that T-Mac is out anyways.

    I still think we should play him, no point in sitting him. We should give PT to the youngins' though.

    In fact, playing Yao might help this team knock down their damn shots because they get more open shots than in practice.
     
  6. canoner2002

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    Not outside of norm? before tmac got injured again, yao was not mauled by 2 3 guys night in night out, and I don't expect he ever get defended by 2 or 3 players night in night out once we get tmac and other help on the team.
     
  7. kaleidosky

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    he didn't say you're the one who called tmac a quitter. he said that the comments had been made (obviously referring to other threads back when tmac decided to cut the season short). Don't call someone out as "irresponsible" with their commenting if you don't have reason to. Oh, and your threads after this game have not been very good.
     
  8. pryuen

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    IMHO, to sit Yao Ming the rest of the season is a BAD and LOUSY idea.

    You need to read the thread that I created on Anthony Falsone's training plan for Yao Ming. He is now into a training phase where the emphasis/focus is to raise his durability.

    Just let the other teams doube-team and triple-team him; let him play and learn the hard way. Play 35+ minutes like he is doing right now. He needs this kind of high intensity games to test his mettle, to raise his durability.

    We probably will miss the playoff. That means he will start resting for months of May and June before returning to China for preparation of the World Championship in mid July/August. Given his super star status, and given a considerate head coach now for Chinese national team in Jonas Kazlauskas, he will not be forced to participate in meaningless exhibition games or closed-door training, but probably just participate in the following tournaments starting August.

    1. An exhibition match in Nanjing on August 7 with the USA Dream 7

    2. 2nd FIBA Stankovic Continental Champion Cup tournament in Nanjing (August 10 ~ 15 ), featuring China, Oceania champions Australia, South American title holders Brazil and the top three finalists of the European Championships - Greece, Germany and France.

    3. The World Championship in Japan (August 19 ~ September 3)

    He needs to keep his competitive form and shape for the upcoming tournaments in August.
     
  9. Cesar^Geronimo

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    Yao is still learning and improving. You don't get better sitting on the bench. He's not an over the hill veteran trying to hang on -- he's still on the up swing and needs experience.

    If he learns to handle the double and triple teams w/o T-Mac --- watch out when he has support.
     
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    Yao is still learning and improving. You don't get better sitting on the bench. He's not an over the hill veteran trying to hang on -- he's still on the up swing and needs experience.

    If he learns to handle the double and triple teams w/o T-Mac --- watch out when he has support.
     
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    Next season will be a seaon of pay backs and I for one am looking forward to Rockets team that will kick some ass. Yao should still play out the season and start looking forward to next season.
     
  12. ShadyMcGrady

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    What I mean by this is, he's not getting pushed, hammered, scratched, etc. outside of the norm. He's obviously being guarded by 3 guys everytime he looks like he's going to get the ball, but, I didn't see anymore physical abuse than I normally do.
     
  13. Coach AI

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    Uh...no.

    Yao could get 'hurt' anytime. So could any other player. He's playing the best basketball of his life. What he goes through now will make him even better in the future. Most importantly, I think he wants to be out there.

    Terrible idea.
     
  14. canoner2002

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    You guys can disagree with me now. I see in the next month Yao's production comes down significantly from past 15 games, due to opponents' total disrespect of our non-existing offense outside of Yao. I see a shift of momentum on top of injury risk. Question is next season, will Yao pick up from where he is now, or where he will be in April. If it is the latter case, we will revisit this topic.
     
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    can you read? Turn to page 1 of this thread and read what was post before he said "Ironic that people call T-Mac a quitter when he says he may sit out the last 5 games if we're out of the playoff hunt, but actually suggest that Yao sits out the rest of the season while totally healthy", and tell me whom else he could have refered to!

    I have every reason to call him out because his undounded accusation was directed to me.
     
  16. ima_drummer2k

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    I'm sorry to make that "undounded" accusation...

    I just don't understand how a player (who is currently playing the best basketball of his LIFE) is supposed to improve by sitting on the bench. You still haven't explained that one.
     
  17. Texas Stoke

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    I will tell you what's going on here. This dudes pride is taking a hit. He can't stand to see Yao Ming on a losing team. He doesn't want Yao Ming to be in the same arena with these guys because to him Yao Ming is better than them, better than all this. This is the YOF mindset. It's just the way these dudes operate.
     
  18. Texas Stoke

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    I like this yof. at least he get right to his point and says he wants Yao to rest
    because he is afraid his stats will not look as good if he plays the next 15 games. that's good stuff.
     
  19. canoner2002

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    Yao is more likely to take 2 steps back if we keep playing him like this. Sitting on the bench won't improve him, but it is better than seeing him regress. With 2 or 3 guys drapped on him night in and night out, we have little to gain, a lot loss.

    BTW, I am probably one of the biggest supporter of Tmac. I jump on people who call him quitter. I don't deserve that unfounded accusation you made, not at all!
     
  20. canoner2002

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    Yeah, right. I am a yof, and I suggest sitting yao while keep playing him will get him voted in the 1st or 2nd NBA teams. :rolleyes: I am a yof, I paid my whole family to go to Utah and GSW games during my winter visit to houston when Yao was on the injury list. :rolleyes: I doubt there are 1/10 as many yof's as you believe.

    What I am afraid is not his stats. What I am afraid is next season he will think he is just another 20/10 guy, instead of believing he can be a 28/12 guy.
     

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