1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Let James Harden play point guard

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fxbillie, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. fxbillie

    fxbillie Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2012
    Messages:
    547
    Likes Received:
    22
    Harden shows he can play pg if needed like tonight with 13 assists. That is elite playmaking. Since McHale doesn't want to use Lin as the starting pg, he may as well let Harden play pg officially. Why not? Harden played pt in OKC and won 6th Man for that. He can do a good job. Just make Lin as the backup for playmaking. Lin may feel better to be displaced by all star Harden than Beverley. Bev proves he is not a starting calibre pg with very unpredictable and limited offensive skills like the other elite starting pgs of the contending teams in the west. If Harden plays point, his scoring prowess is no less than other elite pgs of the West. But he needs a very capable spot up shooters, something like Steve Kerr in MJ's Bulls. I think Jimmer Fredette is a deadly 3 pt gunner like Redick. Since we have traded often with the Kings lately, we may as well get Jimmer Fredette too and give them a bench player or 2 in return. The Kings had turned down the team option so he will be a free agent anyway after this year. He is a great pure shooter and is bigger than Brook and PB. His 3 pt % is awesome - 50% in Nov. 42% in Dec., and 55% in Jan. We should get him to pair with Harden. That will be a great fit for Harden and even Howard playing inside out. Then we won't be losing these close games. He is like a smaller Redick and can play pg or sg.

    http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.html?PlayerID=202690
     
  2. TheMystery008

    TheMystery008 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2012
    Messages:
    4,638
    Likes Received:
    1,250
    Please stop.

    (-.-)

    Yay, five point guards for the win.
     
  3. RoxBeliever

    RoxBeliever Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2009
    Messages:
    6,608
    Likes Received:
    134
    OP, where have you been? That discussion is so last season.
     
  4. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    44,662
    Likes Received:
    20,371
    Harden's natural position is power forward, actually. He is a great post defender and playing him at PF allows the Rockets to spread the court and have Harden guarded by an opposing big man who is typically too slow and unskilled to play perimeter D.
     
  5. SirKen

    SirKen Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2012
    Messages:
    747
    Likes Received:
    17
    I can't wait for the Bev-AB-Lin-Harden-Dwight lineup. Or does it go with Parsons at C? Hmm, Delfino was there at one point...
     
  6. fxbillie

    fxbillie Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2012
    Messages:
    547
    Likes Received:
    22
    Ya but last season the status of Lin was not set. He was the designated starting pg. Now he is out of the picture. Bev is not really a starting pg calibre for a contending team. Harden just dished out 13 assists. Now perhaps is the time we should explore this possibility that Harden as the starting pg and Lin as his backup. As much as some like Bev's defense (me too), I just can see a contender's starting pg is a defense specialist. He has to shoot the 3s or drives. But reality is those are not Bev's strength. Why over use the guy for what he is not? For the team's sake, you guys should not promote Bev as the starting pg any more. Use a real playmaking pg, someone with the scoring prowess of Harden if Lin is not the answer. Then get a potent deadly 3 pt specialist to complement him. That will rejuvenate this offense. Jimmer Fredette is going to cost next to nothing to get as his contract is expiring end of this season.
     
  7. archinkent

    archinkent Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    3,832
    Likes Received:
    41
    I am pretty sure most of the assists were due to Parsons' hot streak at 3, so slow down on Harden being an elite playmaker.
     
  8. lucnguye92

    lucnguye92 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2013
    Messages:
    934
    Likes Received:
    60
    This notion of "Let Harden be PG." Okay, cool. Who the hell is going to guard the opposing PG?
     
  9. fxbillie

    fxbillie Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2012
    Messages:
    547
    Likes Received:
    22
    Good question. Harden of course. He did that when he play backup point for OKC. So why not now? If he cares about making to all star, he won't let the other pgs beat him game after game. He is just lazy now but he has the physicality to move fast and he is strong for a guard.
     
  10. Foxbur

    Foxbur Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2012
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    0
    Let me get this straight... So you want -
    1.) Harden increase his TO?
    2.) Easy scoring for opponent's quick PG or beverly guard bigger SG?
    3.) More ISO so a talented teamates can ball-watch more
    4.) Jacking up low FG% 3
    5.) More dribble, dribble, dribble, last second pass...

    Seriously.. the only reason he's getting this high Ast today is because of how hot CP is.
    Go back to your basement! SMDH
     
  11. lucnguye92

    lucnguye92 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2013
    Messages:
    934
    Likes Received:
    60
    We're not looking at back up PGs. We're expecting him to defend starting quality PGs day in and day out while maintaining his offensive edge, while expecting him to conduct the offense? PGs who are faster and quicker then the opposing SGs that tend to make his defense look... "uninspired?" I'm all for Harden as a playmaker, he has an elite level skill and is already a top, if not the top SG in the league. Unfortunately, a PG that does not make him.
     
  12. fxbillie

    fxbillie Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2012
    Messages:
    547
    Likes Received:
    22
    Good point. But didn't he play backup pg to Westbrook in OKC? If he could do it there and won the 6th Man, why can't he do a good job in Houston. Why make Bev play the starting pg when he obviously is not a starting pg. Don't let your love for Bev override the interest of the team being able to contend with the other top teams of the west? All star speedy pgs will be hard to stop for any other guards, Bev included. Bev is not all potent and sure stopper of speedy pg. He is a great ball pressure defender with energy, but opponent's speedy pgs do blow by him too. OKC's back up pg Jackson scored big on Bev during playoff games. So no guarantee Bev can stop the other speedy guards from scoring. We can always bring him in if Harden really has trouble. That will be his role. It is not like we are giving him up. We just can't depend on his offense especially 3pt or penetration. We need more potent 3pt specialists because Houston shot tons of 3s. Morey should go after Fredette as he is not going to cost an arm and a leg like Gordon or Rondo.
     
  13. zipcrash

    zipcrash Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2013
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    8
    it's about skill sets, not positions.
     
  14. N/A

    N/A Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    231
    Likes Received:
    14
    uhh...he already is playing the PG position? you know, hence the 13 assists..
     
  15. THE DR34M

    THE DR34M Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    1,160
    Likes Received:
    35
    Harden's already playing PG! What the hell are you talking about?!!

    Harden should be playing SG!!!
     
  16. rubbertoe

    rubbertoe Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    277
    Likes Received:
    9
    Wait , when did harden stop playing SG?
     
  17. THE DR34M

    THE DR34M Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    1,160
    Likes Received:
    35
    Talking about player roles and not the two letters they put next to player's names on the TV game intro.
     
  18. RiceDaddy7

    RiceDaddy7 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,671
    Likes Received:
    34
    Let James Harden play PG, let Jeremy play SG.
     
  19. RedDynasty

    RedDynasty Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    4,164
    Likes Received:
    122
    I've always kinda pinned Harden as a center.

    Dwight signing confused the hell outta me.
     
  20. Kiddsir

    Kiddsir Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2013
    Messages:
    1,734
    Likes Received:
    69
    Rondo is coming to the town.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now