Let freedom ring.

They are waiting to see what happens. If it works out well and Egypt has a democracy - then they will say Obama should have done more and Bush was the one who inspired the people of Egypt. They will say dems were wrong all along.

If it didn't work out and chaos errupted they would have attacked Obama for not standing by Honsi and abandoning an American allay.

That way, they get to attack Obama and claim credit either way. So that's what Basso is waiting for.

 

Not really -- we've grown used to Obama's pitiful indecision. It was on full display during this revolution.

 

I think it was pretty clear the admin wanted Hosni out. But you know they have to be prudent. If Obama calls for Mubarek to resign, than Mubarek can retaliate by clinging to power and claiming the U.S. was interfering.

When Obama used strong language, conservatives like Palin freaked out and yall were saying Obama was creating another Iran. Now that it's clear that won't happen, all of a sudden it's he was indecisive.

Guess what, it wasn't for Obama to really take a position. This was about the Egyptian people, not America. It's not Obama's job to mess with their democratic movement.

So I'm glad he didn't support Mubarrek like your commrades wanted and I am glad he didn't call for his resignation.

Seems like everything turned out ok. Seems like you just look for another way to attack for no reason.

That's what is pitiful.

 

EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED IS THE DECISIVENESS OF THE DECIDER! LOOK AT HOW WELL THINGS TURNED OUT UNDER THE DECIDER!

 

Um yeah. We need the idiotic decisiveness of the catastrophic disaster of a president like George W Bush, who prematurely recognized the leaders of an unsuccessful coup in Venezuela and completely embarrassed the United States.

Nuance and patience just aren't your thing littletexxxxxxxx. Knee-jerk stupidity along the lines of our former president is more your speed. Even GOP leadership realized how tenuous the situation in Egypt was and didn't have much negative to say about Obama.

One exception was Sarah Palin who, like Bush, is more your type.

 

Was celebrating all weekend, very happy with this milestone, and I can't wait to see what the next steps will be.

In respose to the thread title: free at last!

 

Actually, it took less than Tunisia. The Tunisia thing started way before the media latched onto it. Also, Mubarak was way more powerful than Ben Ali.

(Referring to him in the past tense is just priceless.)

 

Congrats, Mathloom!

And everyone else, please don't feed the new head-scratching troll talking point (e.g. "indecisive!" hilariously on the heels of "he's too radical! he's changing everything!"). I imagine such talking points delivered to him by secret decoder ring... or... by Craig's List add?


"hello, bigtexxx. ;-) I have this week's talking point, and also what about my abs? I've been trying your workout, T90XXX, but it just isn't the same when you're not here! ;-)"

 

Bird watching.

 

Been celebrating all weekend with my pals in the Muslim Brotherhood. Finally Israel will fall and and the next caliphate will rise! Death to America. Thanks Brother Obama for the indecisiveness!

 

The military has dissolved parliament and suspended the constitution per protesters' demands. Some protesters are still staying in Tahrir square as the military is trying to clear them out to try to get things back to normal in Cairo.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41558249/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa

 

I think the PRC will eventually become a democracy but it won't be soon or dramatic and will be an evolutionary process.

 

The difference is whether the army will fire on their own people.

 

I hope some good Islamic techno music was involved... otherwise it's not a real celebration.

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Egypt will be an interesting case. Where will the democracy lead in that country? If the CCP is right, instability kills the prosperity. We shall see.
OTOH, there is a representative democratic system and procedure in place in Egypt already. On that front, Egypt is ahead of China. So maybe Egypt is not a perfect analogy to China.
Anyways, CCP seems nervous about Egypt. If there were signs of political reforms, particularly hinted by Premiere Wen's speech, I hope the conservative faction in the CCP come with full force to push back on any political changes. Sadly, this seems to be the case at the moment. One thing for sure, if the wedge is open, however slightly, there is no going back in China and the Chinese people will want more and more. The CCP bosses are keenly aware of that possibility.

 

i think only if unemployment and hunger (due to rocketing food prices) hit china as well.....which doesn't look to be the case for the next several months at least

 

Only if the political infrastructure and the people in China are ready.

The dominance of CCP over 50 years have twisted China into a pretty much ill-formed weirdo. You have whole bunch of Chinese people, including the young elites, have no ideas after all these years of brain wash by the CPP. There isn't a functional democatic system in place in China, unlike Egypt. The court system is a part of CCP. China is a much much harder case than Egypt.
A breakout like that in China takes place again, it's freaking Myanmar, sadly.
Moderate political change is a must before China can take on that road.

 

The propaganda of China's situation is unique and hence no other system would work in China as advertised, plus the nationalist's BS have soften many Chinese since 1989.

 

Good read