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Legalize the Drug Trade to Cut Off Terrorism Funding

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by GladiatoRowdy, Aug 14, 2006.

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    Andymoon, I am a creature shaped by my experiences. Eggs were good for me, then bad, then the whites were okay and now back to balance them in your diet. There are facts and then there are all the facts. Facts taken out of context sometimes are twisted to become untruths.

    You have done your homework well. However, my viewpoints are shaped and colored by my experiences. If I am proven wrong when all the forces and factors are weighed in the crucible of reality, I shall recant. Until then, I cannot accept studies that conflict with my own personal observations.
     
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    why is it that just because the drug is legalized people automatically assume that everyone will start doing it? just because something is legal to consume doesn't mean everyone wants to consume it. not everyone wants to be stoned, or even likes being stoned.

    assumptions like that are entirely outdated.
     
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    Ever been to Austin?
     
  4. GladiatoRowdy

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    It is my opinion that there is more violence today because our policies create it. Look at the murder rates during and after prohibition and you will see an interesting trend. When prohibition ended, murder rates dropped dramatically, only to rise substantially in the early '80s with the ramping up in the WoD.

    With a regulated system, the taxes on the drugs themselves could pay for treatment. Non drug users would not have to pay a dime.
     
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    Couldda, shoulda, woulda....but you must not be experienced working with politicians. Social Security would be in good shape, but they needed the money for the General (cough*pork*cough*barrel*cough) Fund.
     
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    Don't run the point to an extreme. The point made is that usage will increase, NOT that everybody will start using. Big difference. Good for you that you would do drugs. I wouldn't either. But everyone isn't like you and me.
     
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    As we all are. However, are you really saying that you will trust the anecdotal evidence provided by your experiences over the empirical evidence provided by scientific studies, the experiences of hundreds of thousands of others, and the analagous historical events?

    Exactly. For you, eggs were no longer good for your health and now they are good in moderation. However, for other people eggs are fine as they do not have problems with cholesterol. The point is that you have a choice when it comes to eggs versus egg whites.

    Thank you. I have worked hard to come by the knowledge and experiences I possess. I was a drug abuse counselor for years and it was during that time that I "saw the light" with regards to drug policy. I believe that the single best thing we can do to reduce drug abuse is to reduce the access that our children have, which will only happen in a regulated market.

    Again, I will point out that your viewpoint appears to be shaped by anecdotal rather than empirical evidence. In this context, the only crucible you are weighing is YOUR reality. You are ignoring the reality of millions of other people. As a result, I would assert that you are not looking at the true "reality" of this situation at all.

    But that is the reason that we study things. We may observe one thing with our limited vision but when we scrutinize the issue scientifically, we may find that our observations did not hold up to the facts in evidence.

    How about this one...

    Every single study done since the late 1800s has found that mar1juana should be regulated much like alcohol and tobacco. That is dozens of studies over more than a century. Do your experiences somehow trump the hundreds of scientists who came to this conclusion?
     
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    The point I would make is that everyone who wants to use drugs in America today has ready access and is probably already using. There may be a slight uptick in usage, as there was after prohibition, but this minor spike will subside just as it did after prohibition.

    However, the resulting positive impacts on our society would FAR outweigh the short term uptick in drug usage, particularly if we limit the discussion to mar1juana. Just the fact that we could reduce access that our children have to drugs would end up reducing problem usage in the long run.
     

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