Now I would trade Brooks...maybe for Holiday. Do their salaries match? And maybe an expiring contract, and that trade exception (draft pick?) for Iggi. That would allow Lowry to start. But trading Lowry right now I believe is ridiculous.
The public is fickle and gets over things quickly, if it nets us a better player, there would be a short outcry then a simmer than silence. Same thing is happening with Ariza. Nothing is permanent in the year to year grind of professional sports. DD
He hasn’t been asked to handle the ball that much for the Magic, but he’s certainly taking care of it when he does. Lee is top 20 in our entire NBA database in fewest turnovers per possession (#2 amongst rookies behind Anthony Morrow), only coughing the ball up on 11% of the time. He’s also sporting a solid 1.33 assist/turnover ratio, further adding to his value. From DraftExpress.com Just saying...they also said that he handled the ball extremely well in college and play the point quite a bit. I think it makes brooks more expendable then lowry...it seems like hed be replacing brooks type game with better defense and brooks is tradeable...lowry isnt with the BYC.
When he was on the magic, I didn't see any point guard skill from Lee, it was mainly pump fake, slash to the hole, or take the shot. He's more of SG than a PG. I didn't see him set up anybody, it was either Nelson or Turk. Well we never know....btw he has some nice hops.
i think we're being too specific with this... morey is all about having assets that are easy to move....ariza was about to be forced into a small role, so his value here would drop and his value for other teams would change after this season as well. Right now there's still a chance he'll develop into a super role player type, but this is his make or break season, if he doesnt do it now he won't do it again. He's had his shot, his minutes, the offseason time, so his time is NOW.....it makes a lot more sense to save 10 mill, pick up the trade exception, and get someone who is very tradeable. Morey just gets more pieces to play with. I dont think expendable is even a word you should use with this team. Who really is that? All of our guys are guys teams would always be willing to make space for. They're all talented, good guys, who dont cause drama, which is exactly what teams want. It really comes down to who we can win without and that'll depend on what players we're getting in return, so you can't really single anyone out until offers are being made. I dont think Morey is targeting any one guy either, so nothing is certain now.
i said early that we could sign Ish Smith to be our backup if a trade like this were to happen. well we have Ish now...
Okay I don't agree with this at all. Lowry is a gem and a long-term part of this team IMO. The bigger question is what the future holds for AB? He's due a big raise after this season (I think?) and is definitely worth more than Lowry. Lowry could start, but we could be stuck with another Rafer Alston situation. He just can't shoot well enough to be a starter on Championship team. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but I think we're almost a legit contender and AB is a HUGE part of that.
In a strange way you might be right, especially with the signing of Ish Smith. Now it looks as though Lowery could be considered and expensive contract and moved in the big trade!!
No way....rafer has always been known for his handles, but he never was known for putting them to use consistently going to the rim. As a rocket, it almost never happened, especially his last season. Lowry doesnt even think about shooting unless he's considered driving or passing first. They have similar downfalls on offense, but lowry at least tries to limit or cover them.
All he'll do is play defense, hit the open jumper, and make cuts. We're not asking, nor expecting playmaking abilities out of him. The rarest thing we can ask from him though is to defend the "bigger" PGs. Something I think we'll be doing a lot of. If we do end out getting Iguodala, it'll be for a combination of Battier & Jefferies with Hill & picks or Budinger & picks or Hill & Budinger. Lee steps in then. I wouldn't be too shocked to see this as our rotation Yao-26/Brad-22 Scola-32/Chuck-16 Iguodala-35/Lee-13 Martin-35/Lee-8/Lowry-5 Brooks-33/Lowry-15 Defensively, it's very strong. I can't believe i'd actually say that, but it is. We have tremendous defensive options at PG, SG, and SF. Lowry/Lee/Iggy on PGs, and Lee/Iggy on SG/SF's. Inside we have Yao, and a healthy 12-15mpg of Chuck playing man D on the other team's best player. My biggest fear though is the P&R at the C-spot. But if they do that, we got to play to our advantages. Example: If Yao's on Haywood, and they think pulling Haywood out and running a screen with him and Kidd over Dirk & Kidd, or isolating Dirk, is a better solution, then so be it. They are playing to OUR hands then.
One of the things Morey has stated is that he wants quality depth at every position. Why would he move the point they just overpaid a little to keep to replace him with a guy that is clearly a sg or a guy that can be signed off the street in Ish Smith. He may very well be moved in a package for a star, but it won't be for just anyone or to get rid of his salary.
ZERO doubt??? It's not like Taylor makes $3-4M per year. He makes next to nothing. Seriously, his salary for the next THREE YEARS is right around the league minimum level. If he's a good player, WHY would the Rockets "dump" him, even if he's a third stringer? I'm not saying that Taylor might not be traded if it helps the team. But there is absolutely no "need" to get rid of a nice young player on a long-term CHEAP deal. 56 posts. Fifty-freakin'-six posts into this thread before someone FINALLY stated the obvious fact that seemed to slip everyone else's mind. I kept scrolling through this thread to see when someone would make this point. Thank you, worzel, for adding some semblance of sanity to this thread. First, the notion that Lee makes Lowry expendable is preposterous. Lee is NOT an NBA point guard. Can he play some minutes defending opposing PGs? Sure. Will the Rockets want to move the guy they JUST made a point to match on a large offer sheet just so they can play Lee out of position? No freakin' way. Second, the consent issue. Yeah, I know that Lowry's from Philly. But it's hardly a foregone conclusion that he'd consent to a trade to the Sixers. The Sixers love what they've seen from Jrue Holiday, who's on a dirt cheap rookie deal. They also have Louis Williams, as well as Evan Turner, who may be able to play some minutes at the point. There's no guarantee whatsoever that Lowry would be able to start in Philly. And STARTING is what Lowry's after right now in his career. Bottom line: --Lowry is not expendable due to the acquisition of a SG. --Lowry must consent to any trade. --The first 55 posts of this thread disregarded this fact.
