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LeBron vs. MJ

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ItsMyFault, May 22, 2009.

  1. goodbug

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Rules#cite_note-1

    Jordan Rules ain't something special, folks. It's all about when and how to send a double. Including some soft double that defense player seems to be moving all the time but actually trying to imitate a zone defense. Today, you can just stay between the opposition's best and worst scorer, and that's a constant soft double.

    Jordan's era was more physical, and did allow handcheck. But handcheck nowadays is a privileged call preserved for certain baby players like Wade and LBJ. They ain't called consistently otherwise there'd be 100 ft any single game.
     
  2. wekko368

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    That's what I figured you meant, but your definition isn't quite correct.

    The "Jordan Rules" were the physical defensive strategies that Chuck Daly's Pistons used on Jordan.
     
  3. A_3PO

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    The term isn't limited just to that. It also applies to the preferential treatment MJ got in the NBA, on and off the floor. The vast majority of the time the term is used, it's the latter. I can't remember the last time I heard someone use the term to refer to the Piston's defense.

    There was an actual book with that title some years ago. It was EXTREMELY controversial. Very little of it was about the Pistons defensive strategy. (To be clear, I don't want to discuss the off-the-floor stuff in this thread. I'll be the first to admit MJ had very serious character flaws and leave it at that).
     
  4. wekko368

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    I was just letting you know the correct definition of a phrase you've been misusing. If you want to keep doing so, that's your own prerogative.

    Yes there was a book with the same title. Did you read it? I did. The purpose of the book was not to focus on the Pistons' strategies or the refereeing of that era. The book showed what the Bulls' team was like behind closed doors and the conflicts they faced.

    IMO, Sam Smith used the title as a pun.
     
  5. Drexlerfan22

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    He's not "misusing" it. It's simply a phrase that has a few meanings.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    That's fine. Lot's (probably a majority) of people "misuse" the term the exact same way.

    I didn't read the whole thing but I read snippets & paragraphs and heard very heated pro and con arguments about the book. Wow!
     
  7. wekko368

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    So your contention is that "Jordan Rules" means both:
    - The physical defensive strategies that the Pistons' employed on Jordan
    - The beneficial treatment that Jordan received from the referees

    Since these two "definitions" contradict each other, I have a hard time believing that both are valid.
     
  8. Jackie1221

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    If Lebron retired today, would he be the best player to ever live?
     
  9. wekko368

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    In 02-03, a 40 year old Jordan averaged 20 ppg.
     
  10. Art7

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    lol jackie
    If Lebron retired today, would he be the best player to ever live?


    now answer this
    If Mj retired when he was 24, would he be the best player to ever live?
     
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    But Jordan didn't retire when he was 24, so that's irrelevant. lol at all the lebron homers trying to compare him to jordan. Jordan could score anywhere on anyone. Lebron still has no midrange game.
     
  12. Jackie1221

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    Agree. that is what I'm saying.. Give it time before people start crowning Lebron.

    MJ is still the best at the moment. God's honest truth.
     
  13. Jackie1221

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    yep, he made zero jump shots last night, yet he's the best player in the world, ever. ha
     
  14. goodbug

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    Single coverage and second option my friend. He's good, don't get me wrong. But he's gonna score 40 on double team night in and night our versus today's defense in his prime.

    Think about it, with zone, every team is using "Jordan rules" nowadays against premier wing player. 1on1 ISO is not happening today.

     
  15. timmy

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    Nah. It's Kobe who got most of the ticky tack calls then anyone else.

    Never could understand why so many Chinese like to kiss Kobe's ass, even on Rockets' board.

    'Bron is in the discussion with MJ for GOAT, Kobe will never be.


     
  16. ItsMyFault

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    Fail... if Kobe can't be in the discussion, then how can LeBron? That's epic failure and complete hate.
     
  17. juicystream

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    In fairness LeBron shoots very well from the field, and the primary difference in their shooting % is because LeBron takes way more 3-pointers than Jordan. Surprisingly, LeBron is the better 3-point shooter. :eek:
     
  18. Jackie1221

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    how bout jump shot? Shots outside the paint, but inside the 3... Lebron is horrible at those.
     
  19. Shaud

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    He's a very streaker shooter, but he is still dominating while being a streaky shooter.
     
  20. Jackie1221

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    His jumper will get better, i think.
     

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