My man...who said anything about hatred. I watch and have played ball just (like you?) and I'm reporting what I've seen with my own eyes. Honestly I have little cousins who watch game tapes from the 80's and 90's with us all of the time and they see the difference in the game from then to now. And what's with the personal stuff about me not now having an idea and crap....the fact is you don't know me, my basketball or life background so let's hold off on all of that if you don't mind
Your statements are pretty off the tracks, which is why I replied that way. Seriously, do you honestly believe John Starks could even hope to guard LeBron? Do you honestly believe a "normal" foul back then would be a flagrant 1 now? Do you honestly believe MJ "got manhandled on a nightly basis"? Do you think LeBron is "just a man child who gets everything handed to him from day one"? All of that is very ridiculous stuff and if you believe the comment about LeBron, you obviously don't like him. If your post was just lunatic rhetorical extremism, say so. If you had, there wouldn't have been any misunderstanding.
I don't think it's time to compare LeBron to MJ yet. MJ was a complete player in his 2nd 3-peat. MJ had a post game. Unstoppable turnaround fadeaway jumper. If MJ played with no hand check, he would probably average 40. LeBron has the potentials, no doubt. But, will LeBron be as great as MJ? It really depends on what LeBron will achieve in his future career. LBJ still needs to develop a post game and a consistent jumper. A couple of championships will certainly help.
What's wrong with saying that those, sir, are your opinions also. I've had conversations with a lot of people who feel both ways. It doesn't mean that you're right in your assertions either. If you'd like to have a decent conversation let's do so but making personal attacks (instead of this crap - If your post was just lunatic rhetorical extremism, say so. If you had, there wouldn't have been any misunderstanding - what...do you have a frikkin dictionary next to your computer or something son) it'd be ok.
OK, let's have a decent conversation and move beyond rhetoric. Tell me how John Starks, man of such great physical prowess, would have any chance at stopping LeBron? How did MJ have such a long and productive career if he "got manhandled on a nightly basis". In your opinion, did Jordan Rules exist, or no? What exactly has been handed to LeBron since his freshman year?
Because MJ was the best, that's how he lasted. How does Lebron not get anything handed to him??? just watch a full game. If he does not make a layup, its an automatic foul. oh and last night when he was "fouled" be Howard on the 3??? everyone human would agree that was not a foul...
Funny how you bend over backwards and make stuff up to make MJ look great, but you don't do the same for Lebron. Now why is that? "A normal foul during his time is a flagrant 1 now?" Baloney, sir. Pure baloney. And John Starks would be knocked unconscious the first time he tried getting in Lebron's way going to the rack. And I say "read" because you'd have to go read something on the guy to know why he was such a humongous *******. If all you ever did was watch ESPN and listen to the commentators fawn over him, then you probably wouldn't know those things, would you?
You keep referencing them, but since you seem to be a proponent of Lebron, I'm curious as to what you think the "Jordan Rules" are. Please explain.
MJ is best right now. Lebron is on the rise. That's how i feel about it.. but MJ would not miss 5 fourth quarter free throws to lose a game. But Lebron is growing.
MJ will not average 40, not even close. With the zone enabled, MJ wouldn't even get entry pass down low. If the oppositions wanted to shut him down, they can just double him without the ball in the post, something wasn't allowed in his heydays. MJ was great, but we've seen so many clips that MJ just needed to backed down a smaller defender, and there ain't much can be done. Let MJ tried backing down strong SF nowadays, he won't have as much success.
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MJ punched steve kerr. Even MJ admitted that. He made kwame cry. Bill cartwright wanted to kill him. He belittled his teamates. He pissed of Horace grant. He might have been a great player and have gotten his teamates to do what he wanted, but he wasn't a nice guy on the court.
This is a great point that most people forget about. They repeat ad nauseum "well the game was less physical then!"... and ignore that back then, it was illegal to drape multiple defenders on a guy before he even caught the ball. That gives defenses today a lot more tools to shut down a single dominant player. You'd think Rockets fans would remember this, seeing as we're victimized by it every time an opposing team "sandwiches" Yao with one defender behind and another in front. That's an automatic whistle when Jordan played.
Exactly. All this stuff is documented. If you can seriously look at all the incidents like this that Jordan had during his career, plus the affairs, plus the gambling, and somehow conclude that he's a nice guy... I'm sorry, there's something wrong with you.
how bout this question, kinda interesting to think about. "If Lebron James ended his career tomorrow, where would he rank on the best players ever list?"
There was a set of rules for determining what was a foul on a player, and there was another set of rules for what was a foul on MJ. As compared to contemporaries, MJ got the most favorable referee treatment in NBA history. Sometimes it was ridiculous. In my book, it didn't stop him from being the the G.O.A.T, but he got treated like royalty. Some people will say he earned it because it didn't start happening until everyone acknowledged how great he was. Kinda of hard to explain it now because of what MJ meant to the NBA at the time. He was almost larger than life.
In the NBA? I reckon so. I can't think of anyone else in our 3 major sports making $36 million in one season. David Beckham supposedly makes $50 million per year.
