yea its things like this, accommodations and rule changes for lebron that takes away from his appreciating his superior...athleticism... anyways, lebron gets it worst, why? they have never changed rules to accommodate a player, all stars get calls, although lebron travels more than all, but the nba actually made a rule thats been illegal since the beginning of the game legal for lebron in the crab dribble, despicable http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1255854721179660.xml&coll=2
Kobe travels also, Wade also. Everytime Kobe gets the ball he travels even before doing a move. I'd rather see spectaculair plays with a discutable travel than lame calls that stop the game's flow.
i agree with A_3P0 on how they call traveling. what is or isn't called traveling seems to have a lot more to do with it than who is doing it. shuffling your feet doesn't just get you a travel in the post. the most common traveling call seems to be the pump fake and then shuffle the feet before dribbling move. perimeter guys are called for that all the time. but if you make a coordinated looking move, whether in the post or from the perimeter, they tend to give the benefit of the doubt, either by deciding you didn't technically gather the ball on the first step, or maybe just letting you have a 3rd step. i swear sometimes you see non-travels called travels because a play happens to look weird (especially in college) while more obvious travels slip by because it looked like a natural move. i don't get either of these. both guys dribble, then take two steps and either dunk or pass. how are y'all getting traveling out of that? did this rule change actually have to do with the "crab dribble" incident? i thought it was essentially a clarification of what had always been assumed to be the traveling rule, namely that you can pick up the ball and then take 2 steps. i think the rulebook almost made it seem like you could only take 1 step but every level of basketball had allowed 2 steps for decades so they just formally put it in/clarified it in the rulebook. besides wasn't lebron's "crab dribble" when he basically jumped off his second step and did a jump stop, which would be 3 steps and traveling by any definition, even this new interpretation?
I think you are right. The so-called "crab dribble" has nothing to do with a 3 or more steps running layup/dunk. It is moving BOTH feet AFTER a jump stop, which has always been a no-no since they taught me to play basketball as a kid.
the refs allow travel because they are only human, and the way refs officiate is all wrong. Its one thing to see travels and palming when you're seeing it via camera and you can replay it over and over again, but how about when you're seeing it real time? These guys are athletic freaks, its almost impossible to count the number of steps they're taking real-time, and if you attempt to do it you won't be able to pay attention to anything else, which is why if it looks fluid they let it slip. IMHO there aren't enough refs, and instead of making them run around the court like morons they should just sit in high chairs like in tennis so they can see everything
Well if the problem is the refs, then something should be done about it. Because as it currently stands, the game isn't being played according to the rules which really irritates me.
thats why i dont like lebrons game....as rodman describes "boom here [he] comes" a lot of other players are way more talented than lebron. Lebron is just physically dominating, where as players like kobe/richard hamilton/ray allen are SKILL-dominating. lebron moves his feet so quickly that sometimes is hard to catch him traveling from live action....but almost everytime once he catches the ball i try to look immediatly to his feet and a lot of time he travels.
The game hasn't been played according to the rules for a long time, the league has been modifying the rules itself to increase scoring and make it more fun to watch for the fans. Even then it wasn't enough, they tried to roll out an improved version of the ball, and when it didn't fly then resorted to modifying the hoop so that the ball bounces in more often. If they are resorting to such measures just to increase scoring do you think they'll want to enforce traveling infractions, all of which break the game's flow up? Its common sense that 3 refs are not enough for a basketball court esp. when they have to sprint from one area to another, they should have more and just divide it area by area.
agree with ya - those are both fair plays. Having said that, I also agree that Lebron travels a lot (however many of these videos posted are rather poor examples). A game recently, in the half court set, Lebron drives to the hoop from the top of the key, goes into his steps, 1, 2 - the defender rises up in front of the rim to contest the shot and go for the block - so Lebron takes a 3rd slow and awkward step around to the left and under the defender to get his shot away. He so obviously travels it isn't even funny, but is hit on his 3rd step and bailed out by the refs with a foul call. Those are the ones I find the most frustrating - how are you supposed to defend a guy who has a superpower allowing him a 3rd step if you contest his shot???
but I would rather see only one applied consistently to all players not 2 different rules depending on the player..
Not that this is any excuse but when Kobe travels you get the feeling it's almost a "practiced travel" that he knows he can get away with because of his experience and because he does it deceptively. When Lebron travels, it seems more like he just isn't smart enough to realize what he is doing. His speed and lack of fundamentals combine to make him a world class traveler. To prove this, I would love to see how each guy produced offensively in a game where traveling rules were strictly enforced. I suspect Kobe would adjust after one or two calls and still do his thing while Lebron would repeatedly commit the same offense and have no clue why he was being called for a travel.
Watch all NBA dunks in slow motion, you'd find at least every 1 out of 4 could have been called back for traveling.
him getting away with traveling is not nearly as appalling as his pre-game circus. anyone else notice that most Cav games start 7-10 minutes late, so Lebron can get in his goofy poses and chalk-chunk nonsense. WWE/NBA. bad lebron. no obrien trophy.
I find it annoying because as a junior, I used to watch the NBA and mimic what the superstars did. Then I got called for carrying a few times and had to adjust my game so that I didn't 'cheat'. I'm not sure what junior leagues are like in the States but in Australia the refs enforce the rules. From a very young age, you learn NOT to travel, carry...etc. Then when I was older I played pick up games against people who watched a lot of NBA but never played in a league. I noticed that they broke the rules a lot at a subconscious level. And it was difficult to compete against them when they're doing killer crossovers palming the ball or taking that 3rd or 4th step. And in a pickup game you're not going to call travel / carry on them every 2nd play. What I find amazing about the Maggette travel is his complete lack of fundamental basketball instincts. He wasn't doing it on purpose. All my friend's in Australia who have played ball for more than 3-4 years will subconsiously NOT lift their pivot foot after planting it. It's not even a decision, it's instinctual and you just DON'T do it.
