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Lebron James Travel or Bad Call?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by itony, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. kanariya

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    That play LeBron was traveling. I have no problem with LBJ but I do hate the freaking flopper Vajdfetsdgfs however you spell his name very much.

    This shows how much is LBJ spoiled by the refs usually.
     
  2. clos4life

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    Clear travel. Lebron is trying to work the officials by getting the media on his side. Instead he is being ridiculed left and right for his so called "crab dribble". That's a clear travel by NBA standards, he is just not used to getting calls against him.

    I guess for once he found out what being a non-superstar is like. I don't feel sorry one bit for him, he should learn to play within the rules of the game, not get away with stuff just because the NBA wants to badly market him.
     
  3. bushbush1988

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    i like caron butler's reaction lol "there is a god"...
     
  4. YaoTheMan

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    On Sunday, James said it was a "bad call" and that "they need to look at it and they need to understand that's not a travel."

    In giving his take on what happened, James said: "I watched it again, and I took a 'crab dribble,' which is a hesitation dribble, and then two steps."

    Asked Monday if he knows what a "crab dribble" is, Wizards All-Star forward Antawn Jamison said, "I know what a traveling is. ... I think we all know what traveling is."

    Washington's other All-Star forward, Caron Butler, gave a similar answer.

    "'Crab dribble' is when you, uh, travel," Butler said. "That's the hottest thing on the market right now."
     
  5. bushbush1988

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    wizard should those playoff games back....seriously...that game winner (played over and over again) is a textbook travel...
     
  6. Trini Rocket

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    At first I didn't think it was a travel because he gathered the ball with both hands after he took the first right step. But when you look closely he gathered the ball with his left hand first then held it with both hands. And the first right step was after he gathered it. So it's like this - gathered the ball with left hand, right step, ball touches right hand, left step and then the final step. Travel.
     
  7. Lovemachine2000

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    Eh, that's so wrong it's not even funny.
     
  8. tinywang

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    It's obvious Lebron took 3 steps. I think the real question here is......are you allowed to take a step when you're gathering the ball with both hands.


    If yes, not a travel.

    If no, travel!
     
  9. flexcavana

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    Caron makes fun of the crab dribble


     
  10. flexcavana

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    whoops, didn't see that earlier post. sorry.
     
  11. Houston22

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    Well, not really! If you don't take it like he picked it up the dribble then it's a 4- step play. You just can't get by defender in 3-step rolling.
    This is textbook travel.
     
  12. ReD_1

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    I have never heard you can make 3 steps in basketball.

    That's crap, imagine what would European judge do if he was a judge in that game.

    That's big traveling, period.

    Who doesn't see it sucks at basketball or is a big LBJ lover.
     
  13. Blurr#7

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    This guy still doesn't get it:

    "LeBron not convinced he walked"
    Comment Email Print Associated Press

    INDEPENDENCE, Ohio -- LeBron James is still talkin' the walk.


    James

    Two days after he was surprisingly whistled for traveling in the closing seconds of Cleveland's 80-77 loss at Washington, James maintains his "crab dribble" was legal and that he has no plans to remove it from his arsenal.

    The Cavaliers superstar was adamant after the game that he didn't walk. He said it was a "bad call" and that "they [the NBA] need to look at it and they need to understand that's not a travel."

    King James hasn't changed his stance.

    "I've done that move plenty of times and I believe it's a good move," he said after practice on Tuesday. "If they called it more consistently, then I guess it ain't a good move then and I'll change my game. But it's not called consistently."

    James was driving for a potential tying basket when referee Bill Spooner called him for the traveling violation. James was stunned and so were many of the Wizards, who have complained in the past that James takes extra steps when he attacks the basket.

    Spooner explained his call in an e-mail: "3 steps on the move to the basket. Basic travel call."

    An NBA spokesman said the league supports Spooner's call.

    The did-he-or-didn't-he-walk debate has raged since the final horn, much to James' amusement.

    "Everything I do is a big deal," James said, smiling. "It's easy for people who don't play the game of basketball to say something about a certain move. You hear all the people on SportsCenter talk about it, but they've never touched a basketball in their lives. They just report about it."

    James appreciates how difficult it is for officials to make split-second decisions in a game where the players are getting bigger, faster and stronger each year.

    "It's definitely tough," he said. "We all make mistakes. I'm not downplaying the refs because they do an unbelievable job. I couldn't do it. It is tough because guys can do a lot of things that they couldn't do back in the 60s and 70s."

    James raised some eyebrows when he called his infamous move at Washington a "crab dribble," an unknown term to most league observers.

    He described it as a hesitation dribble he uses to slow down the defense before he accelerates toward the rim. James feels he should be entitled to two steps once he stops dribbling.

    "If they take it away like they've done before with the hop step, I'll find a way to do something else," he said.

    During his first two seasons, James often was called for traveling when he would hop on both feet while taking a layup. The league cracked down on his patented move, forcing him to do other things but hardly interrupting his ascent to stardom.

    "How have I fared after that?" he deadpanned. "I'll be fine if they take this away, too."

    What's get's me is how the NBA took the time to review the call. How many tapes and complaints have the Rockets filed about the officiating on Yao? I've never heard a response or even a "we will look into it". But here Lebron has not only gotten the league to look at it but the media is still covering it.
     
  14. rox4lyf

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    try googling "crab dribble", nothing regarding fundamentals basketball even shows up. i wonder where he heard this term "crab dribble" from.
     
  15. nolimitnp

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    That is so definitely a travel. If players are allowed that kind of movement without the basketball we will soon see a revolution in the way players drive to the basket. There is absolutely no defense against that sort of move...its unfair.
     
  16. nolimitnp

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    Travel or no travel, I think it is clear who the best player in the NBA is now...Lebron playing lockdown (or in my IMO, more importantly TEAM defense) is just scary. Before its all over, we may just have to change a couple rules to prevent him from just absolutely dominating the game.
     
  17. Easy

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    He has a point. If it's travel, they should call it every time. The league officials should be ashame that LeBron has not been called travel more.

    BTW, I think they heard him wrong. The move is called "crap move" not "crab move" because it is crappy basketball.
     
  18. pmac

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    Ah, you beat me to it.

    Yes, i see guys take 3 steps all the time, particularly star wings, and don't get called for it. It's not like it's a missed call here and there they blatantly allow it...sometimes.

    The officials need to be more consistent but i'm sure they would catch hell for calling traveling each time Lebron or Kobe walk.
     
  19. droxford

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    What the hell does that mean?
     
  20. knickstorm

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    seems to me it means once you stop dribbling you got 1 or 2 steps before you put up a shot or pass it to someone.
     

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