LeBron James: Race a factor in "The Decision" backlash

wrong...but im not surprised judging by the fact that u are more interested in insulting me than being correct...congrats on wasting those 5 minutes posting tho

 

Insulting you? Dood you went right against me with this (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5605382&postcount=44) and (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5605382&postcount=66). You aren't even taking the time to read my responses and copping out with the insults card. Why wouldn't I call you clueless...

 

ok...i sort of insulted u first (i was really only being sarcastic)..i apologize...but it was well deserved when i was pointing out how clueless you were....the fact that u are in here arguing with such a strong opinion about something u were in the dark about 3 days ago (i.e. clueless) while the rest of the free world (or at least the basketball world) knew about it is pretty funny....anyway...ill agree to disagree

 

I didn't know about the donation. That changed my view about The Decision. So I stated that. I didn't "argue" anything with you. You took a poke at me and I did so back. I actually was having fun with it.

The only thing I was debating was when I was merely stating to Deji that there is a difference between doing something for profit and doing something for free (in monetary terms). And then with you about the fact that you think he didn't donate anything because he wasn't firsthand giving the money. It was done through a media contract. Somehow for you that equates "not a real donation". I don't see why he had to sign the check himself. Again, it would be the same if golden boy Shane Battier made an appearance at an event where he arranged to have a large portion of the revenue made from tickets go to a charity group. For me, the ends justified the means cause it helped people out.

 

Regardless of the money, it was still a crappy thing to do towards his longtime employer and the fans of the team he played for before.

 

i see ur point with the Battier referrence...i just thought that the Decision had MORE to do with the self serving things that went down and less with the donation... (he could have done it WAY differently and still been able to donate a ton of cash) bc it seemed like he didnt really harp on the donation until well after he was vilified (im not saying he never referrenced it....and i know it was a given going into the TV special)....anyway....i still hope he never wins a ring down there

 

Yep, I feel sorry for the Cavs. It was disrepectful but I am willing to let it slide. Some very disadvantaged people got some help at the cost of some well-to-do egos being boosted/bruised. Well worth the trade imo.

 

Yes, I can see that he could have decided to donate the revenue in order to use it as insurance in case "The Decision" was a flop (which it was). If that was his motive, then it obviously didn't work but I'll take the donation anyway.

And amen to that....amen

 

Still hellbent on putting generic internet labels on people I see?

You were trying to discredit Lebron's involvement with the charity just because he didn't personally write the check. I asked you a simple question, would those companies throw 3 mil together if it weren't for Lebron? Your answer was "dUhHH iNtERNet tOUGH gUY!!!!~!!"

You refuse to read the posts you were replying to and continue to think everyone must support The Decision if we supported the charity money. How ridiculous is that? We're all glad for the charity money, but we're not saying the way parted with Cleveland was exemplary in any way. He took a dump on Cleveland and everybody knows it.

You don't want to discuss this properly or you're just incapable of doing so?

Try repeating this to yourself: "I don't care about Lebron James and I'm glad 3 mil was donated to something positive. "

 

for a guy who is so pro-donations....why dont u shut ur mouth and open ur wallet and donate to the tip jar? Mom wont let u use her credit card?

 

I'd say "concession accepted" but we all knew that for a while now.

 

barkleys response

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its interesting how he thinks race is the reason they got mad at him for this...lets simplify this formula

you have two men of the same race, durant and lebron, one makes the 'decision' and gets crap for it, the other signs a 5 year extension quietly humbly and makes millions more fans bc of his approach, so its not their actions, its lebron's race? this guy is a joke and delusional

 

This isn't a good argument at all. Was Durant perhaps the most high-profile free agent of all-time in the NBA?

Let's get back to what LeBron originally said: "I think so at times. It's always, you know, a race factor."

Now, let's take that entire quote in context (that makes no selecting certain parts to change the meaning.) OK, so he said that race is always a factor. It is, and numerous studies show that, collectively, white people are likely to react more negatively to what a black person says or does than when a white person says/does the same thing. Now, this doesn't mean LeBron's race was a factor in how you or your grandma or your co-worker's aunt's brother reacted to "the Decision", but it does mean that if you sampled the entire population, race would be a factor for a sizable portion. So, yes, race is always a factor in these situations. To deny this is to have your head buried in the sand.

 

Durant was about to become a restricted free agent, there is absolutely no comparison. He couldn't have changed teams if he wanted to really. But of course, the media never lets the facts get in the way of a good story.

 

You've made it way too simple. Your comment seems like it's arguing against the notion that disapproval of "The Decision" was entirely racially motivated.

Who said that?

 

I find it funny that LeBron says he feels it play a part but all these idiots reacts as if he said it was the reason. I just wonder how smart peopl are.

 

And what's wrong with Bob Newhart??

 

that's what i was wondering!

 

i'm still torn. i love lebron! one of the greats for sure. but he is getting on my nerves with this whole me against the world attitude with everything.

part of me wants him to go win it all or lose it all in spite of this.

 

the idea that wouldnt kevin durant get some hate bc hes black too if its a race thing? wouldn't some people not give hiim credit for being humble, he didn't just do the right thing he got acknowledge adn acclaimed from it and won over millions of fans that lebron lost, and hes black too

yes people see race, but was race a factor when people saw the decision, that was just a douche thing to do, universally and that is why he was crucified and kd got the opposite, i know there are racial issues, but in this particular case as usual lebron just can't accept being wrong...iuts just others being haters cuz he wanted to hoop with his boys, he spins it so much from his hand shake crap, jersey stuff so on, this kids a joke

and if i white guy did that show and the bs that lebron pulled, hed be the biggest douche too, once again, its not about race, its about the action in this case...even partially