McGrady hasn't won a playoff series in 9 years. James has led his team to the 2nd round in his third year. He's on a completely different level from what McGrady was after 3 years.
Ugh...PLEASE STOP WITH THE PIPPEN HATING!!! Considering his impact on both sides of the court, I'll argue that he was the best SF in the game in 5 of the championship seasons. The only championship year that he didn't make an All-NBA team was 90-91, and he was still on the 2nd All D team that year. 91-92: Second All-NBA team, and the only SF to finish ahead was Mullin. Yes, Scottie was better than the no defense Mullin. First all defense team. 92-93: Third All-NBA team, and the only SF to finish ahead was Wilkins. Yes, Scottie was better than the no defense Wilkins. First all defense team. 95-96: First All-NBA team and First all defense team. 96-97: Second All-NBA team, and the only SF to finish ahead was Hill. Yes, Scottie was better than Hill. First all defense team. 97-98: Third All-NBA team, and the only SF to finish ahead was Hill. Yes, Scottie was better than Hill. First all defense team. At worst, he was the 2nd best SF during most of those seasons. That is not a role player. That is not overrated for top 50 consideration. Who cares if Rodman is a zero on offense. You have the best SG in the game, two SF's that can score and a bunch of PG's that can shoot. I would think adding one of the best rebounders ever (who also won defensive player of the year twice) helps. Kukoc was no scrub. He is old as Moses and still in the league. Yes Scottie gave us the middle finger, but he was still a great player. Yes Jordan won 6 titles, but his teams didn't even have a winning record until they had one of the best drafts ever (Pippen & Grant). MJ had A LOT of help.
He's on a different level (after 3 years) but it's not like the Wizards play any defense. They would've been the perfect matchup for Tracy.
and have been, Tracy has torn up the Wiz everytime he's met them over the last couple of years, not to mention I think he recorded his career high against them
thats right G 62 infact. Arenas had 40 in the same game meaningless march game with both teams out of playoff contention
as far as history of the league, only three guys have ever had a season like lebron had this year, 27 7 7, oscar when he averaged a triple double, and mike when he went 30 8 8. so actually, he's already in rarified air and that was last season. if you watched that whole game last night, if the dread locked dude could make some layups in the fourth quarter they would have had a real shot at winning.
no they shut the pistons down on offense, and they had them frustrated until ben wallace hit a lucky shot falling away off the glass that shouldn't have counted because the shot clock should have expired on a shot that didn't hit anything but glass.
also, not trying to knock t-mac, but t-mac also played in the east. and he didn't get out of the first round. now maybe he never played a team as weak as the wizards (who aren't that weak they were a second round team last season) but he didn't win 50 games in the east either. give lebron his credit, the development as a player at the age of 21 that he has shown is simply unmatched. now he probably won't have a career like jordan, but he has had a better beginning.
Look at all the hating. You guys are pulling out MJ, Wilt, and Magic to try and downplay James...if that doesn't prove the whole point, I don't know what does. I thought he was overhyped too (not like that was his fault) before he came into the league...but to see what he could do in his first freakin season (and YES, that does include making his teammates better), I realized I was wrong. It's his second year, and already people have to pull out the all time greats to try and cut him down. Folks, this time, there's a reason the hype exists.
like magic and jordan the thing that impress me most is he improves his game seemingly almost everytime out. remember the talk about him not being clutch. I bought into that. I bought into him not having a reliable jumpshot, whatever you say he can't do, he does it. being a huge francis fan, the thing that will always frustrate me looking back on his game is the none improvement. since his rookie year francis hasn't been able to hit a jumper spoting up, off a screen, basically any form of shooting from a pass. on the other hand, it was one of the most beautiful things to watch seeing hakeem develop into a hall of famer. the improvement in his game over time. that's a sign of greatness.
Dang some of ya'll are hard to impress. So if the guy isn't Wilt Chamberlain then he is nothing to get excited about. Looks like you are just looking for something to say bad about him.
Isnt there a certain Houston Rocket who also has this quality right now? I believe he is quite a tall fellow.
I'm not sure how LeBron is overhyped. His stats are insane. He's just 21 years of age has his team out of the first round something T-MAC has yet to do and it took KG nearly a decade to accomplish that. LeBron is a triple double threat every night hes the youngest to accomplish almost every single milestone in a career. And was what 2nd in MVP voting??? The guy deserves all the hype he has gotten he certainly didnt deserve it straight out of the draft but he has certainly lived up to it. The pistons are by far a better team than the Cavs, almost everybody has the Pistons atleast going to the NBA finals. Ya the Cavs most likely will lose this series just like they're supposed. I'm not understanding this overhyped talk. What more do you want this guy to do at this stage of his career?
LOL. Pippen most overrated? 6-time devensive player in this league overrated? Now you tell us a list of best Euros? You just don't know **** about basketball..
Imagine a team with Kobe as shooting guard and T-Mac as small forward. That is what the Bulls teams were, meaning scottie was the best small forward in the league. I still can't believe people think he was overrated.
Yeah...now surround them with a workhouse PF and a lot of shooters. Oh, give em two to three decent 7 footers as well....
