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Lay it on the line. Conservative or Liberal?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Chance, Mar 11, 2003.

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Conservative or Liberal?

  1. Conservative

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  2. Liberal

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    49.1%
  1. TheHorns

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  2. Ankich

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    Liberals will allow religious and social freedom on the condition that you give everything you make to the nebulous socialist government, which always ends up laughably inefficient. Just look at Canada, where the socialized health everyone touts is driving thousands of doctors to the U.S., where they can set up a private practice and not basically become slaves to the government once they get their medical chops. You're free to smoke pot and screw whoever you like, but you don't get to choose between private, competitive health insurance companies. You have one option: The State. And you don't even have a choice whether to be involved or not. You have to pay for the insurance even if you're a healthy young guy willing to gamble on his health for some extra cash. If you don't pay the government your protection money, they show up at your door to lock you away, since they've taken all your guns away. Some freedom.

    Conservatives will allow economic freedom and the right to bear arms, on the condition that they can set up a "father knows best" state where they legislate what is moral and immoral, state homosexuality is inherently wrong, peaceful drug use is inherently wrong, and basically pervert "democracy" (or as I like to call it, mob mentality) to take a giant dump on the separation of Church and State, because the moral majority will be allowed to run things according to the Bible; all other religious beliefs and anyone pursuing a "nontraditional" lifestyle will be squashed in the same way the Puritans and Calvinists were way back in England, only this time there will be no unexplored New World to run to. We will become no better than the Muslim theocracies we are currently fighting. Fundamentalism is a scary thing, no matter what the religion. And if you try and think differently, perhaps try to live by a code of ethics other than the divine command theory, where it isn't inherently wrong to do things that don't hurt anyone else, the stormtroopers and the lynch mobs show up to squash your dangerous crimethink ideas. Some liberty.

    Needless to say, I'm a libertarian. The government should keep itself as far out of all private matters as possible, be they how much money you earn, how many guns you own, what you choose to eat, drink, or smoke on your own time, or what kind of relationships you pursue.
     
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  3. Heretic

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    Vote Libertarian-It's cheaper than taxes.
    Vote Republican-It's easier than thinking.
    Vote Democrat-It's easier than working.
     
  4. Coach AI

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    I abstain.

    Labels suck.
     
  5. HtownRocks3

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    Liberals suck.
     
  6. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    That's sweet.
     
  7. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Your both mean.
     
  8. rimbaud

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    I meant to mention this earlier because I was thinking the same think - that there were many who would read it in complete awe.

    Even more personally, I think it is funny because he labels himself as undecided and has previously labeled me as a conservative bandwagoner and yet I label myself as a radical leftist and those two tests basically did as well.

    I guess it is all just a matter of perception - personal and external.
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Maybe our friend glynch has achieved some sort of "wrap-around" effect, as was common on certain video-games of antiquity, such as "COMBAT" in the Atari empire of the late
    1970's and early 1980's. He's so far left, that in fact ...
     
  10. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    If you look at my member number, you'll see I've been here....too long.

    I think in all the time I've been here, Ankich might have just written my favorite post of all time. I'm going to print it out and sleep with it.

    OK....maybe it's not that good, but I did really enjoy it.

    I hope he (or she) posts more often.
     
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  12. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I've been here less time for sure, and I post way too much, but I almost agree with you. I honestly believe Ankich was a little light on the libs though, and a little harsh on the convervs.
     
  13. MadMax

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    you'll all be surprised to know that Ronald Reagan came out as my political stereotype
     
  14. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Republican - You believe that the free market will take care of most things, but that the government should be there with moderate taxation to provide for national defense and enforcing morality. Your historical role model is Ronald Reagan.


    I'm pretty satisfied with this. Good link Buck.
     
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    FDR also... He is probably my favorite president. Democrats/Republicans have changed a lot since FDR was in office.
     
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    Green - You believe that small economic units should control the goods, and that the government should be permissive of "victimless crimes," respectful of civil liberties and very strict towards big business. You also believe in either a socialist tax structure or more power to local communities. You think that environmental policies should be written into law. Your historical role model is Ralph Nader.

    Sounds about right.
     
  17. TheHorns

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    Fascist - You believe that an alliance of monopolistic corporations and oppressive government should cooperate to lord it over the population with an efficient iron fist. Your historical role model is:

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    Once I saw how extreme the answers were I wanted to see what would happen if I answered them in the most ridiculous manner. It gave me an extreme result :eek: :eek:
     
  18. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I got Green, too. This has been a very bad day for me. :(

    I have big, big problems with Ralfie de Nada. I wanted FDR. Maybe I'll just keep "playing" until I get him.
     
  19. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    Hmmm....you may not believe this, but I got FDR.
     
  20. Deckard

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    I'm sorry, but I find this incredibly simplistic. It does read very well, however.

    I have a friend who was born and raised in Texas, but moved to Canada (British Columbia) after vacationing there almost 30 years ago. He's married now, with 3 children, and has talked to me many times about what it's like.

    He has a gun. (there are bears)

    He loves the healthcare system and says the perception of it here is bogus. He has a supplemental healthcare policy (private) that he got primarily for trips to the States, because he found that the couple of times he needed healthcare here and said he was Canadian (he's become a citizen), he was treated like a pariah and pointed towards the nearest county hospital. (his Canadian national insurance would have covered him here, but he wasn't believed)

    He says he pays less in taxes where he lives in Canada than he would pay in the States. This is a guy who has extensive family here in Texas and visits often, so it's not like he's hiding in a cave up there.

    What's facinating to me is that after decades living in his small, beautiful village in the mountains, he's still seen as "the Texan" (in a friendly way) and still has a thick Texas accent.

    I won't comment on the conservative part of your post, Ankich, I will leave that to anyone who feels like it should be argued. I give you a great deal of credit for expressing yourself well, but I think you're a little off-base with your Canadian perceptions.
     

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