He's trade fodder and trade salary matching at this point and a throw-in to a team that wants to take a flyer on him next season. You're too far away. Gotta get close enough to know what he is. He's just another player. Might not be in hte league in 3 years if he doesn't start to improve either his defense or shooting drastically.
No when I meant picked up I meant through waivers. There are only TWO teams that are capable of doing it and I am taking Portland out because they are not so radical. That's the thing with Hinkie. You can't say the normal thing like " he will poison his youngsters" because Hinkie in his previous moves has proven that he doesn't care one bit about taht but only about asset acumulation. Doubt it. That would be the best offer by far.
A sports figure gets caught with a gun- no jail time. If it goes off in any sort of way then they get years. If one gets a DUI or more then usually no jail time (or 30 days max). If he hit someone then most likely years. Lawson is not a lost cause by any means but it is definitely a cause for concern on his behavior. I think the Rockets could benefit having a player with an edge to him as long as he plays within our system and not against it.
Philly did that to get assets. They got a 1st round pick for taking on McGee. This wouldn't be the same situation and they definitely won't do it. And to bballholic, no chance Lawson spends months in prison. Funniest thing posted in thus thread.
Not true. Philly acquired assets to take on salary. They did not haphazardly take on attitude and reclamation projects hoping they could work out and flip them for assets.
and how do you know they wont? They can get first round picks and prospets back if Lawson can rehab his value. Do you know that in one year the capspace they have will be utterly worthless? And that before they used to be the only capspace dumpster but now they have competition in the field by Portland who has a very smart and active GM? They need to reache the salary floor both this year (feb) and next. And reaching teh salary floor NEXT year will be incredibly difficult for them- since they don't want to pay journey man vets. and good luck getting rfa to sign with you. Their capspace is getting devalued. This may be one of the last opportunites they have in quite some time to get a real asset back by renting it.
honestly would lawson even start on this team, logistics wise? bev shores up harden's D better, and harden runs the O anywats i do think lawson is better than bev, but that scoring punch off the bench would be fantastic. shoe in for 6MOY
assists do not equal having a bad attitude around young players. Philly IS NOT going to claim Lawson on waivers. Nor trade for him. Totally unrealistic.
I don't see how 5'11" and no D solves any of our problems. Everyone says help Harden, but why do you want the ball out of his hands? We never played GSW a single game with a healthy roster, and our biggest hole was their biggest strength. I just don't see Lawson moving the needle, at all.
They wouldn't be getting assets to do it. They would be banking on reclamation in order to get assets, while hurting their ability to tank and very likely poisoning their young players. The reward is far, far less than the risk. It will not be useless this season or next off-season.
If y'all watch some Lawson highlights and STILL don't think he'll help this team substantially then idk what the hell you guys are possibly thinking.
He can create so Harden doesn't have to do it by himself. We were awful when Harden sat and have no chance to get by teams like GSW if we can't put pressure on them offensively with more than Harden. And, really, that will also help improve our defense by forcing the other team to actually guard and stop a guy like Lawson.
You guys must think we can just pull a superstar out of our ass and that's just not going to happen. Lawson is a GREAT offensive talent. We had THE JET starting at the point guard for much of the season, and you're complaining about Lawson's defense? Give me a break. That's why we have Bev. If Lawson is getting torched Bev can go in and harass the hell out of them. Lawson is the best option out there by far. Deron Williams has bum ankles, Ricky Rubio is Ricky Rubio ffs. Y'all always seem to find the negative out of everything and think we need a superstar.
Someone who can create offense was/is a huge need for this team. ISO Harden, post up Dwight and wing pick-and-handoffs were too predictable. When the first play was shutdown, there wasn't much else after that. Harden bailed us out a lot, but when he went out, the offense struggled. A Ty Lawson would help that big time. Plus, there would be no more zoning in on Harden. More room for him to work.
Oh you don't understand how a PG who averages 15 points and 10 assists with good efficiency on just 20% usage could be useful to a team whose point guard rotation currently consists of a defensive specialist and second round pick who has shown just about nothing, on a team whose offense is based entirely on a shooting guard who plays about 36 minutes a game. Tell me more of how you don't see how this solves our obvious and most clear need.
This is flawed logic. His defensive stats the last two years are the worst I've seen for any guard by a lot, and I end up looking up those defensive stats (even though they are not the be all, end all) a lot. Anyway, these awful defensive stats were earned while he was making his man work on defense, cuz his offensive numbers the last two years were great. Why do you think his offensive game is suddenly going to help his defense at Houston when it didn't the last two years? Now, the question I have is........if you have the quickness to blow by anybody in the league, how can you not have the quickness to stay in front of your man? It must be effort then, right? Well, Harden made the jump in that area this past year, so shouldn't it be possible Lawson could do the same? I don't like DUI's or idiots either, but.......I just love guards who can get in the paint at will...........sooooo I gotta sign off on going for him. That's my vote, and I feel a little guilty about it.....
That said, I think trading for Isaiah Thomas last year for peanuts would have been an even better move, and Morey passed on it. So....I don't think Morey and I are in sync at the PG position.
