In a post-9/11 America, it would be in the best interest of our national security to sweep this under the rug.
I suspect there are far more rapes commited by soldiers in Iraqi, this case is just the tip of ice berg. It's time to get out.
olliez: The problem is not that American soldiers rape or murder or torture -- the problem is that the traitorous American media keeps reporting it when American soldiers do those things. Reporting rapes and murders is un-American and pro-terror. When you arrest an American raper and put it in the news, it's like giving Bin Laden a flower and saying, "Please kill more Americans, please?!" Ask gwayneco. He's got it all worked out. If you were a real American you'd be staunchly in favor of ignoring rapes and murders committed by American troops. Instead, obviously, you wish all Americans were dead. That's sad.
you cant make this a political thing. no matter how much you hate the war etc. if someone does a crime, someone does a crime. Batman is right. if someone who is Rocket's fan goes postal, do people think all Rocket fans are lunatics?
i think you are just trying to pick a fight in here now, this guy would be a psychopath no matter where he was at. i don't think being in iraq would push someone that far over the edge unless they were already there.
Lol, I can't fathom Batman was saying this with a straight face. There are still many questions to be asked in this case: How old was the "woman" ? Who was that "woman" ? What was her name ? Which family memmbers were killed ? Why her ? Why the killing ? I don't think this case will go down quietly.
three more were charged today in this case. its starting to be the headliner on national news everyday.
An interesting twist that hasn't been talked much about in relation to this incident... Were soldiers killed by Iraqis as retribution? U.S. probes link to civilian rape, death http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06186/703429-82.stm BAGHDAD, Iraq -- The U.S. military is investigating whether the kidnapping, killing and mutilation of two soldiers was carried out in retaliation for an alleged rape and killing of an Iraqi woman by another member of the same unit three months earlier, a military official said yesterday. The incidents occurred in nearby towns, and the soldiers involved were from the same unit. Both the bodies of the two U.S. soldiers and at least one Iraqi were brutalized. The official, citing the results of a preliminary military investigation, also said yesterday that military officers had forced the chief suspect in the rape case out of the Army before the accusation against him came to light because they believed he could pose a threat to Iraq civilians. Military officials initially had believed that the three soldiers attacked in the town of Yousifiya were selected because they were in a vulnerable position when separated from the their unit. "Was it a target of opportunity or was it a warning: Don't do this to our women?" said the official. The rarity of kidnappings of U.S. troops -- only one other is missing in Iraq -- and the apparent complexity and brutality of the attack in Yousifiya have investigators looking further into the possible connections. Another American soldier was killed in the attack. On Monday, Steven D. Green, 21, a former U.S. Army private with the 502nd Infantry Regiment, appeared in federal court in Charlotte, N.C., on charges that he raped and murdered an Iraqi woman in the town of Mahmoudiya. According to accounts provided to investigators by other soldiers, Mr. Green took several other soldiers with him to a nearby house intending to rape the woman. Mr. Green, according to an affidavit submitted by FBI Special Agent Gregor J. Ahlers in support of the arrest warrant, killed the woman's parents and young sister, raped the woman -- as did another soldier -- then shot her in the head and set her body on fire. Mr. Ahlers said his six-page affidavit largely was drawn from the work of Army investigators. No one else has been charged in the case. Although the incident occurred in March, military officials did not learn until recent days that it allegedly was carried out by a group of Americans, rather than the insurgents who were initially blamed. The attack on the three American soldiers working alone at a checkpoint in Yousifiya, near Mahmoudiya, occurred in June. One soldier, Spc. David J. Babineau, 25, of Springfield, Mass., was killed immediately. The others, Pfc. Kristian Menchaca, 23, of Houston and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker, 25, of Madras, Ore., were kidnapped. When found, they had been beheaded and their bodies were brutalized. It was during counseling following the deaths of the three soldiers that military officials learned about the allegations that Americans, not insurgents, were responsible for the quadruple killing in Mahmoudiya. By that time, Mr. Green already had been honorably discharged from the Army. Officially he was discharged because of a "personality disorder." But unit commanders removed Mr. Green because they feared he could be involved in an incident and potentially posed a threat to Iraqi civilians, said the military official, citing documents produced by investigators. Army officials are still investigating other soldiers involved. Responding to the allegations against Mr. Green, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Peter Pace, yesterday denounced the murder or rape of Iraqis as "totally unacceptable." Appearing on NBC's "Today" show, he promised the military will find out what happened. In Iraq yesterday, another high-ranking Iraqi official was briefly kidnapped on the outskirts of Baghdad. Gunmen seized the deputy minister of electricity and his 11 bodyguards as they were traveling toward the city in a four-car caravan. The minister, Raad Hareth, was ambushed by gunmen dressed in security force uniforms at a fake checkpoint and his bodyguards offered no resistance, officials. He was released last night with no explanation. In Baghdad, a roadside bomb killed two policemen and officials said 28 bodies was found in the capital during the day.
Sick. _______ Tape claims 3 GIs killed over rape-murders A statement by the group said the video was released as "revenge for our sister who was dishonored by a soldier of the same brigade." It said that as soon as fighters heard of the rape-slaying, "they kept their anger to themselves and didn't spread the news, but were determined to avenge their sister's honor." "God Almighty enabled them to capture two soldiers of the same brigade as this dirty crusader," said the written statement posted along with the video. The U.S military has charged five soldiers, including two sergeants, in connection to the March 12 alleged rape-murder of an Iraqi woman in the Youssifiyah area and the killing her parents and a younger sister. The U.S. military released the identities of the suspects Monday. The 4:39 minute video shows two bloodied bodies in torn military uniforms lying near a curb on a bridge over a canal. One of them, partially naked, has been decapitated and his chest cut open. The other's face is bruised, the jaw apparently broken, and his leg has long gashes. Fighters are shown turning the bodies over and lifting the head of the decapitated man. link
I thought it was odd that they don't talk about the age. One channel called her a young woman and another a girl. It's horrible if she was 25 or 12 but it adds another level of disgust if she was just a young girl. They also never talk about what family members were killed. I think the press is holding some information back because the story is even more horrible then what we have heard.
I think this has to be publicized. Not only the crime but the fair trial and punishment (if the accuessed are found guilty). We should be as outraged at this as if some pervert did this to our 14 yr old neighbor. The small percentage of American soldiers in Iraq that may consider this must know the consequences of these actions. The majority of the American Soldiers that would never even think of acts like this, and are in fact disgusted by them, need to know they have the backing to stand up against them.
the US media has been very hush hush with this incident, which is pretty surprising to me. i guess they don't want to cause a huge backlash because of the actions of a few soldiers. how is the rest of the world reporting all this? is it a big story overseas etc?
i hope the crap they caught from reporting the SWIFT didn't make them gun shy. and I wonder what info the media had about the killing of the soilders may have been retaliation? ultimately I have no problem with the way this story has been reported, because if this stuff is true, and it looks like it is, this is going to blow up a lot bigger than it is cureently. and it was been irresponsible not to let the story play out.
. No, for you sorry ass Vichycrats, the patriotic thing to do is convict them in the press and then have a show trial.
