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last time Mcgrady shot above 50% for a game...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by f_chowd0696, Apr 13, 2008.

  1. ClutchCityReturns

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    AGAIN, this isn't about who performs at whatever level across the board, or in the playoffs. This is about the stats that I posted, which show that he has horrible shot selection and shooting %'s. The only reason I brought up the point about getting out of the first round, was because I was trying to show how irrelevant the other poster's point was.

    Go back and read.
     
  2. ThaBlackKnight

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    Tracy McGrady is still a top 5 player in the league, when it comes to overall skill. Carmello Anthony(can become an upper level guard) , Rip Hamilton, Michael Redd, Kevin Martin, Rashard Lewis, Josh Howard, Corey Maggette, Shawn Marion, Luol Deng, Richard Jefferson, Vince Carter (used to be an upper class guard), Gerald Wallace, and Jason Richardson may all be better shooters than Tracy McGrady, but could ANY of them lead a team anywhere? NO.

    Carmello is the only one who can have an offense run through him, because he can atleast draw double teams, but he isn't a smart player and he can't pass, thats why he is in this group.

    I hate to put Rip Hamilton in this group, because he is a good player and knows how to win, but he is basically a one-dimensional offensive player. You can't run an offense around him alone. They are (or were) in systems which utilized their strengths and they benefit because of that.

    Tracy McGrady is in the same class as Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Paul Pierce, Brandon Roy, Baron Davis, Ron Artest, Joe Johnson, Manu Ginobili, Allen Iverson, and Ray Allen. They aren't one-dimensional scorers like the players I listed previously. They are scorers and playmakers. But not all of them can shoot good.

    The Paul Pierce and Ray Allen are the only 2 players here that have consistantly good jumpers. But even they didn't accomplish much on their own.

    Kobe is streaky, and can hit the tough shots, thats what makes him the best player in the world. Manu is also streaky, but he attacks the basket as well, and he plays with the best power forward in the history of the NBA, so he has a larger margin of error

    Lebron, takes a high volume of shots, but attacks the basket, so people overlook that. The same can be said of Baron Davis, but he may take the worst shots of anybody because of the offense he plays in. Ron Artest takes bad shots too, but he is a great defender and is a match up nightmare, and he is by far the strongest wing player in the NBA.

    Brandon Roy is a very good young player, and we have yet to see how good he can really be. Joe Johnson is a similar player, who has a lot of talent, but plays on a badly coached team.

    Dwayne Wade and Allen Iverson are HORRIBLE jump shooters, and they take a very high number of shots to get their points, but they are "little guys", and they get to the line to make up for it, although the refs always fall for their flops.

    Tracy McGrady's shooting has dropped since he's gotten to Houston, but I think thats more to do with injury than anything else. He's lost a little bit of athleticism because of that, and therefore he can't attack the basket as much, and he doesn't have as much elevation on his jumper like he used to. But he is such a talented player that he can get away with shooting like crap for a few games. He's not as good as Kobe or Lebron, they are easily the 2 best in the NBA, but he's as good as everybody else in this upper class of wingmen.

    You can pretty much put Kobe and Lebron in a class of their own, and the other players listed with them before in the class right below them. But Tmac is much closer to their level than he is to Michael Redd or Richard Jefferson's level. We are lucky to have a player that talented on our side.
     
  3. Shroopy2

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    This shows McGrady's team rebounds his bricks better for 2nd chances to lessen his harmful impact.
    Or, he bricks so much his team gets more boards from that.
     
  4. f_chowd0696

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    make that 18 in a row.....
     
  5. f_chowd0696

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    god damn that b**** in the background better shut up or im taking a trip to salt lake city with ****ing vengence :mad:
     
  6. f_chowd0696

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    ^^

    that was meant for the game thread :eek:
     
  7. dookiester

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    man i love tmac but he has not been stepping up. hopefully he's just coasting until the playoffs, because if this is him getting into playoff mode, it sure is ugly.
     
  8. NotInMyHouse

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    Coasting at 18 million a season, and whatever that equates to per game....

    I think I'll start coasting at work for my fat 5 figure paycheck.
     
  9. f_chowd0696

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    lets see if t-mac can break some sort of record
     
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    I guess if it's 40%, everyone should celebrate. Tough luck.
     
  11. northeastfan

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    You mean like most first round appearances without advancing?
     
  12. ch0c0b0fr34k

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    I think he's already got that under his belt...
     
  13. f_chowd0696

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    it's his teamates fault
     
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    i seriously doubt he will be able to all of a sudden take it to another level, and dramatically improve his shooting, but then again what is a dramatic improvement? 43 percent fg?
     
  15. Blake

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    (Copied from other thread)
    Tmac deserves some blame for not advancing. But lets look at the Orlando teams he played with:


    Let's look at his teammates in Orlando series 1:
    TMac averages 33.8 points
    No one on his team averaged more than 13.3 points a game. The other marquee players were Darrell Armstrong, Mike Miller and Pat Garrity. They lost to a Bucks team with Glenn Robinson, Ray Allen and Sam Cassell (and Rafer )

    Orlando Series Two
    TMac averages 30.8 points
    Once again, Darrell Armstrong, Troy Hudson were the only two players that averaged over 9 points. The lost a Hornets team that had Jamal Mashburn, Baron Davis, Elden Campbell and the one good Jamaal Magloire season.

    Orlando Year Three:
    TMac averages 31.7 points.
    Drew Gooden only player on team to average over 10 points. All Star cast includes Armstrong, Gricek and Jaque Vaughn. Mike Miller was out. They lost to The Pistons who had Hamilton, Billups, Ben Wallace, Tayshaun Prince and Okur.

    The other two were in Houston. You've watched those, I assume.

    Yes, Tmac deserves some blame for not advancing, but calling him a choker in those matchups and with those supporting casts is stretching it

    Tonight, he was garbage
     
  16. pmac

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    you don't know basketball if you think Gerald Green is a highly skilled player.

    ...I do think he has enough of the other two that he deserves a look in the offseason.
     
  17. pmac

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    i think some people will be dissapointed even more when the playoffs come.

    Tracy isn't what he used to be, he isn't the same player he was when he signed his fat contract or when he signed his extension.

    If you look at him play and can't see the differences from before and now then you're crazy. I'm just happy that he's an intelligent enough player to pass as much as he does and as well as he does. I just don't see why there needs to be a thread about it every other night. He hasn't played particularly well since early in the season. Even the games he put up big stats were misleading.

    Yes he makes alot of money, no he's not efficient, yes his shot is off. Is this really a new topic?
     
  18. WhoMikeJames

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    Vince Carter, a nobody this season, is shooting 45% from the field, and 35% from 3.
     

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