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Last Night's Game 3-18: Reason I would not draft J.J. Reddick!

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by kerry Mckee, Mar 24, 2006.

  1. IC2000

    IC2000 Contributing Member

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    lay off redick

    ps - i bet i know why you hate him
     
  2. Rocketman95

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    And it's probably a lot more rational than your hate for VY.
     
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    "I am Larry Bird II!"
    "No you are not."

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    The crying game

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  5. Hakeem06

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    we do need an outside shooter, badly...but we also need athletes who can defend penetration, shoot, and handle. and with the injuries problems that tracy and yao have had over their careers, and the fact that injuries are random and can happen at any time to anyone, we need another person who can create their own offense if tracy or yao were to go down again. that's why brandon roy and rodney carney would be a lot better option for the rockets if available.
     
  6. ron413

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    JJ, seriously.Don't you think about driving with that weak stuff to the rack.
    You better think twice.

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  7. Samar

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    Good player. Not athletic as hell, but not slow either. You know what you are going to get out of him. Good mid-late first round pick.
     
  8. ron413

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    Yes, you do know what you are going to get out of JJ :eek: :(

    http://dukemo.ytmnd.com/
     
  9. Texas Stoke

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    There may not be a better team for Reddick than Houston. We wouldn't have
    to run him off screens, not with Yao and Mcgrady on the court. But the player
    that i thought was impressive, and could be that 3 point specialist we need, is Mike Gandsey from west virginia. His stroke is just as pure as Reddicks. He would be a nice pick up with that early second round pick.
     
  10. jetland

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    Good points. Hoping to win Mavs with more athleticism and quickness is low odds. But, we have much better chances to beat them to teeth-out-off-mouth by playing more powerful and accurate basketball. So, we need good shooters rather than athletic players next season. Plus, who else do you think could own more athleticism than Swift in today's NBA? Yet, look how much disappointment he has brought us with...
     
  11. jetland

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    I want rox to have a new, richer boss to realize all what you have just wanted ... :D
     
  12. Hakeem06

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    you know i am talking about ONE or TWO players who have the combination of those attributes. look at brandon roy, he can shoot, dribble, defend, and is a very good athlete. he solves a lot of problems right there.

    carney can shoot, defend, and is a freak athlete.

    i'm not asking for a whole roster overhaul, just maximizing our lottery pick and instead of just settling for a one dimension player, finding one who can help us out in more than one way.
     
  13. hashmander

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    kyle korver is also 6-8, so even w/out trying he can accidentally get his hands up in the passing lanes, grab some rebounds, etc. he can be passable as an nba starter because he isn't undersized. and he wasn't drafted high lottery either (like some of you on here want to waste our pick on).

    http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?slug=dw-morrison032106&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
    that's exactly how i feel about him.
     
  14. GATER

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    Bryce Drew is 1" shorter than Redick. In college, Bryce Drew was probably guarded on the perimeter more than Redick. Redick's Sr year was his best 3pt FG%. From the arc, Bryce Drew surpassed Redick's 3pt %age in all but Bryce's Soph year.
     
  15. francis 4 prez

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    but drew wasn't facing near the level of defenders that redick was and he never touched the 26.8 ppg level redick did (which i'm sure require taking a higher degree of difficulty shot). also, redick easily wins the ft% battle, which is a pretty good indicator of relative shooting ability.
     
  16. terse

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    Sure, Redick will probably be a career backup. But chances are that nobody in this year's draft will ever become an NBA starter, especially down where we will probably be picking. So we might as well take a chance on JJ.

    I doubt Branden Roy is within our reach anymore. In any case, although Roy has a higher ceiling, JJ would likely be more immediately helpful to us -- he would start canning those 3's almost immediately, whereas Roy would probably take a year or two to develop. He wouldn't be able to create his own shot, but that would not be a problem on a team with T-Mac and Yao.

    I think JJ's defence would be adequate -- not good, but adequate -- since he wouldn't have to carry a heavy load on offence.
     
  17. GATER

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    There are two fallacies in your logic. One is that Redick will get to the FT line in the NBA enough to matter. (He didn't vs the pro-style defense of LSU). And two, that these supposed better defenders than Drews' actually guarded Redick. They usually didn't.

    Texas has good perimeter defenders who for some unknown reason left Redick open for an entire game. Apparently, Texas (and a few other teams) were more concerned with getting beat inside than outside. Redick scored about half of Dukes 90 or so points. He was taking shots I could get off and at least hit the rim with. He never once had to drive.

    The NBA has SG's who are taller and close out after a douible team faster than anything Redick has seen at Duke. They are beyond what was thrown at him by LSU and what I saw at last years' Regionals in Austin when Maurice Ager totally shut Redick down.

    My conclusion is the wide open shots Redick was getting at Duke will not be available in the pros. On the Rockets, Redick won't get any better looks than Luther Head is getting now. And Luther's college 3 pt% is within reach of Redick whose Sr year best was 42.1%. Luther shot 42.4 as a Soph and 41.0 as a Sr.

    Given that (in the NBA) Luther Head can get to the basket more easily, provides some footspeed in transition, and has some semblance of defense, I don't see the logic behind drafting a one dimensional shooter who is going to be a huge liability on defense.
     
  18. studogg

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    well put sound argument.

    I've been rooting for Redick since I saw him in the McDonald's High School All Star game, and even I don't think his transition to the NBA will be pretty.
     
  19. Hakeem06

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    i couldn't disagree with you more on roy. he's a senior that is a very good all-around player, ready to play in the nba RIGHT NOW. he was going up against a UConn team that has at least 4-5 players who will be playing at the next level, and he went for 20 points, 4 reb, 3 ast. while be saddled with foul problems in the second half.

    roy is much better shooter than most are giving him credit for. he has the ability to knock down a jumper in the face of the defense because of his length and size, something that reddick will struggle with at the next level.

    roy is also a good handler, rebounder, passer, and defender. meaning he will make an impact in more than one area as rookie, something JJ will not do.

    we are going to have a pretty high pick, and i don't see why we should waste that pick on a one dimensional player who could easily be picked up with our second round pick. jj reddick is essentially salim stoudemire from last year. would you take salim stoudemire with a lotter pick? no.
     
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