touche' Here's hoping that 3-4 years from now I can say with a straight face regardless of the team Landry is playing on that I told you so.
JR Smith can put the ball in the hoop with the best of them. It's not his fault that George Karl is too dumb to play him more minutes. http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01.html
Well...yea...if he did that he would be unstoppable but don't hold your breath. Your analysis of his midrange shot is ridiculous though. This is why i wish people would ween themselves off of stats and try to pay more attention to the games. You are never in a million years going to convince me that he is as good a midrange shooter as Miller even though he shoots only 1.2% better or Kobe who you said shoots only 40%. He just ain't that good. Landry shoots a higher percentage because alot of the ones he made were wide open. Give Miller and Kobe Landry's midrange shots and they would shoot over 60%. You have to watch the games. He has a long way to go from midrange, guys like Boozer and David West can knock those shots down in the face of great defense. Right now, i would say Landry is just an average midrange shooter. It is possible for him to get much better at it and (with other teams scouting him better) his midrange shooting percentage not improving at all but would sure as hell help our offense.
I really don't think Landry is worth the full MLE, but unless we can sign someone worth a crap with that MLE, I'd give it to Landry if that's what it took... remember Stromile?? a lot of people say signing Landry to the MLE would be a risk because of his knees... what about the risk of signing Stromile given the fact that he's r****ded?!? Bigs always get overpaid, period.
OH! So the way to develop him is to have him taking contested midrange jumpers???? You are just getting more and more ridiculous. I'm glad you're not Adelman. The whole idea behind 5 guys playing offense is for somebody to get OPEN! It is not going to help Landry to make contested jumpers. It's just taking an offensive possession and wasting it if the idea is for him to shoot bail out contested jump shots. Those types of shots should be last resort and he should only be taking less than 5% of his shots in that manner, really less than 1% of his shots. And I never said he was as good a shooter as Miller. I was just illustrating to you very clearly that he has midrange game. What do you need him to do? Take 10 contested midrange jumpers every game and hit 40% of those. I'd rather him finish at the rim at an ungodly 70% with the foul and if they overplay him down there, step outside to the 3 and knock down a 40% shot that is worth 3 points. OR.......take a WIDE OPEN 16 footer. Landry should be working on shots that are going to be WIDE OPEN for him to make so he can knock them down. I'm done with this stale argument.
Man, its really hard to get a point across on the net. I was just saying he isn't really a good enough midrange shooter. I don't want him taking contested jumpers but I want people to guard him like they guard Boozer and West (up close). That would really free up our offense if his man had to play him really close. I just dislike these percentage arguments. It doesn't clearly illustrate anything because they are totally different situations. I never said anything about him needing to take contested jumpers. I guess just like you don't get what I'm trying to say, I don't get what you're trying to say. If you think he can ever shoot a high percentage from 3 and he's already a good midrange shooter then you're right. If you think that he needs improvement on his midrange shot and won't ever be a good 3pt shooter then I'm right. We, disagree. No since in getting hyped up about it.
The rockets will match any offer that landry could get from another team. The rockets refused to trade Brooks + someone for Artest and trade Scola + someone for Miller last season, and traded Wells + James for Bjax. I think it means the rockets want to keep young talents and salary space for future. We all know that Tmac and Yao's window is only 1-2 years left. The rockets have to build the team for future.
seconded. tim thomas?! wow you have to be kidding me. the guy played well for PHX once, got the contract and now sucks big time. also he landed on yao's leg.
Yeah, that's cool, cuz there is a reason why people are open 24 ft from the hoop. If shooting 40% was so easy, why don't more people shoot that %. Half court is 47 ft yet ur going to tell me 23-9 is a good shot. Ur going to also tell me that the greatest scorer to ever play this game were 36% 3pt shooters but none took more than 3 or 4 a game? So how does a guy like kobe shoot 46%, 36 3pt and 8 ft get to 28-30ppg game. I'll tell you, its 18ft and in. The closer you get to the basket, the closer the shot, the better the %. By ur rational, every player should just shoot 3's. Well KJ was one of the hardest to stop pg to ever play this game and he would kill you from 17 and in and u couldn't stop him. It wasn't because he was a 40% 3pt shooter as u say. No No matter what era after the 3pt line, an uncontested 3 from 23-9 is not a better shot than a contested 15 ft shot. If that was the case, yao, dream, robinson,ewing and the the pivots with 15 ft range should just step back 8 ft and shoot. Maybe in college when the big programs play mid majors, but in the nba its all about shot makers. When I see novak,kopono and guys like that lead the league in scoring, then i'll buy that theory.
I totally disagree with that approach, you say that is where you want to be, but if he gets a better offer, and he might.....say he gets 10 million for 3 years.....does the team let him walk? That is not too much to pay for someone with his potential, and finishing ability. I think Landry and his agent can hold the team ransom this summer..... DD
I guess you think he's the same player from his Buck days? The guy is a talented underachiever, Ray Allen said so himself when they were teammates. So having had past underachievers like Mo Taylor, Cato, and Griffin doesn't dissuade you from wanting Thomas? No thanks for me. Him and the Clippers deserve each other.
What difference makers are there in free agency that would cost less or for the full MLE? The Rockets could hope for some player to take less money but every season we hear about a player willing to take less money but he then gets overpaid days later into free agency. FA for the Rockets this season it's about Morey not getting played by Landry's agent. IMO the best way to do this is find a team willing to pay Landry the full MLE on draft night and with the right amount of TE to take care of his BYC contract.
What's the worst that could happen? Morey lets him go for 3 million dollars. He goes to another team and is a total stud. Three years from now he signs a new 5 year contract in free agency worth 50-60 million and burns us in the playoffs.
Three years from now the Rockets could be building from ground up and Landry isn't a franchise player to worry about what he could do that far ahead.
That's just Shane saving his energy for the defensive end. If he got to involved in the O, his defensive stats would suffer and then he'd be completely useless. "For his part, Landry still says he wants to come back to Houston and has a list of items he's working on this summer." List of Items 1. Get paid more using Master P as his agent 2. Get a Phantom or whatever is the new baller car for an NBA player 3. Get big house in a gated community 4. Big screen Plasma for the new house 5. Attach his name to one of the many relief funds for Hurricane Katrina 6. Get a cameo on either Heroes or Lost 7. Buy a hybrid he can't fit into and store it in the garage. That should keep the guy busy all summer.
If some teams offered him MLE, we have to pay him higher to retain him. No ifs or buts. We cannot lose him for nothing.
What I don't like about Landry's restricted status is that if another team offers Landry a handsome offer, but the Rockets don't want to sign him for that much, then we will be forced to let him go, which is a bad thing. This would be even more complicated if a free agent decides to sign to Houston, but we spend too much on him and not enough to keep Landry.