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Landry's Agent: NBA teams buzzing about Landry

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 24, 2008.

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  1. poprocks

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    Morey will sign Landry back. However, it's about how much Les is willing to spend to keep him. It's not really up to Morey in the end.
     
  2. Texas Stoke

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    Aw man, Landry's agent? That sounds like that Jim Fagen dude. All I will say is two more words. Shannon Anderson.
     
  3. nokidding

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    Scola only earns 3 million and he is and still will be our starting PF. If Landry asks for MLE, just let him go. Nobody will offer him a MLE.
     
  4. LoveRoxHateJazz

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    I wonder which team will try to screw the Rockets.

    Karma - when the opportunity comes, we will be ready to screw them right back.

    Too bad NBA teams aren't like congress members. You don't tread on my turf, and I won't tread on yours.
     
  5. Yao#1

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    You want to trade our starting PG and our best bench big man for Tim Thomas. The same Tim Thomas who has not been relevant in the NBA for several years now. He is nowhere near a Lamar Odom type player. That would be a terrible trade for the Rox.

    Trading Landry has to involve bringing back a big name like Mike Miller or Ron Artest. Not Tim Thomas.
     
  6. hooroo

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    During that time that other team could lose out on signing another free agent they could realistically get and need.
     
  7. ooliverb1

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    I think Rockets will use the LLE to sign Landry. There is no way whatsoever he is getting anything close to the full MLE.
     
  8. Tfor3

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    I'm glad we got Landy :D

     
  9. bigboymumu

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    I would match any offer Carl receives. The man brings it every night.
     
  10. ibm

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    i can't understand why what is said in this post is not yet clear to everyone.

    it's just business. morey made the buzz that we'd matcch any offer. now his agent is doing his job and making the buzz. let's wait and see.
     
  11. ibm

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    not good business move. if you just want to screw your rival team and don't have a true intent, what if landry signs the offer sheet and morey does NOT match? then you would've screwed yourself.

    landry practicing on 3's? he has not shown he's got a consistent ft and mid-range yet. his release is also not quick.
     
  12. BMoney

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    That's a spot-on judgment. Nobody is going to sink the entire MLE on a player who has knee issues and is undersized.
     
  13. HI Mana

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    And for Landry to take the Bi-Annual Exception for one year with his history of knee problems, and the Rockets' history of low-balling him, isn't just borderline crazy, it's full on stupid crazy. What if he goes into a sophomore slump, or if he can't adjust to when teams begin gameplanning for him?

    Landry will be 25 by the start of next season. If he stays healthy, I expect he'll be able to sign 2 contracts between now and 30, when teams will likely start getting wary about locking him up for long money. If he takes the $2M this year and a Full MLE type of deal the year after, he'll be 31 by the end of the contract, and likely unable to get another big payday. If, on the other hand, he signs for $10M over 3, he'll be 28, in his physical prime, and unrestricted at the end of the contract, or with full bird rights with the Rockets. In addition, that means he'll go into free agency knowing what the Rockets have done with Scola the year before, so he'll have a better idea of what his role is going to be going forward, and will have a huge advantage in contract negotiations. And, if he happens to not develop (knock on wood), he's still set for life (something you definitely can't say if he only banks $2 M next year).

    For everyone saying that the talk of buzz is just agent talk, you damn sure better believe that all his talk about wanting to stay in Houston is also all fabricated at this point as well.

    Pay the man his money. Corey Maggette ain't walking through that door for the MLE; who else are you expecting to use the whole MLE on?
     
  14. ibm

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    lol, of course it was. btw, show landry his money? are you his agent? :) you entire post is based on landry's perspective but not the team's.

    using the full mle on landry this year will be a suicidal move by the rockets.
     
  15. leebigez

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    So who were the top scorers and where were most of their points? I'm not stuck in the 70's and there is a reason why 45% is good now when it used to not get u on the court. The mid range jumper is the lost art form and the game has suffered. What ur basically saying is that its easier to shoot a shot that's over half of the half court as opposed to shootng a ft? I'm not going to question ur basketball iq, but that don't even equate.

    U mentioned horace grant. Well, he was a vital cog on the bulls because his mid range was money. How many of those terrible shots did boozer rain on yao's head last season in the playoffs?
     
  16. HI Mana

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    Full MLE would be a bad deal for the Rockets, I agree. $10M over 3, or $14 over 4 is pretty reasonable, IMO.

    I might be looking at it only from Landry's point of view, and maybe I should have prefaced it with a Hubie Brown-esqe "Ok, so you're Carl Landry...", but considering about 95% of all posts in this thread and in this forum are one sided in favor of the ownership, sometimes you need a post that goes the other way.

    I was trying to go for a Teddy KGB kind of thing with that last line, but I suppose Jerry Maguire works, too. I just want the Rockets to make the first move, and show a commitment to sign Landry to a fair deal. No one expected James Posey to get a full MLE deal, but he did, and the Rockets lost a Championship-caliber piece for nothing. It still pisses me off today, and I fear that if the Rockets dick around with Landry this summer trying to sign him for below-market value, the same thing will happen, and we'll see him throwing down dunks for the Bucks or something.
     
  17. RedGlare07

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    Yeah, at this point, a MLE would seem to high for Landry. For all the good that Carl's done, he's still averaging less than 10 from the floor and has not worked himself into a starter's role. It would be different if we had more than just a rookie season to look at.

    If anything, Landry's agent should be pushing Carl's upside--but then, you have to factor in where he's playing in that. His game right now seems to fit in very well with Houston. That might not be the same if he were to go somewhere else, like Miami or Charlotte or Toronto.
     
  18. poprocks

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    Dude has one of the highest PER's in the NBA. He's still a developing talent. Of course you use your full MLE on him if you have to. Look at the company he's keeping. He's in the stratosphere right up there between Parker, Gasol and Heywood,Stoudamire.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holl.../insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics

    1 Chris Paul, NOR 12 40.7 .502 .785 .565 32.7 5.3 27.0 3.7 9.7 6.8 30.49
    2 Kobe Bryant, LAL 12 40.4 .504 .813 .614 19.0 9.0 29.0 1.8 14.2 8.6 28.02
    3 Dirk Nowitzki, DAL 5 42.2 .473 .808 .588 13.9 7.0 25.1 5.0 27.9 15.8 26.28
    4 Kevin Garnett, BOS 16 38.2 .526 .823 .566 14.4 7.2 23.0 8.5 24.1 16.4 24.87
    5 Tracy McGrady, HOU 6 41.3 .425 .623 .478 18.0 7.9 33.6 3.1 19.4 11.1 24.32
    6 LeBron James, CLE 13 42.5 .411 .731 .525 19.7 10.8 32.2 3.4 19.3 11.2 24.32
    7 Dwight Howard, ORL 10 42.2 .581 .542 .589 4.5 15.9 18.7 16.9 26.8 21.9 23.03
    8 Chris Bosh, TOR 5 39.8 .472 .833 .558 13.0 9.4 24.8 11.4 14.3 12.8 22.99
    9 J.R. Smith, DEN 4 27.0 .535 .833 .681 10.7 7.6 20.3 0.9 6.1 3.4 22.72
    10 Brandon Bass, DAL 5 26.6 .472 .960 .617 3.8 5.8 15.4 15.9 12.4 14.2 22.05
    11 Tim Duncan, SAS 14 38.4 .460 .612 .494 10.9 9.8 23.8 11.4 30.2 20.7 21.70
    12 Jose Calderon, TOR 5 24.0 .440 1.000 .565 37.6 6.4 22.7 3.8 13.3 8.5 21.68
    13 David West, NOR 12 40.4 .466 .891 .522 11.4 7.0 23.2 4.9 18.4 11.8 21.56
    14 Deron Williams, UTH 12 42.8 .492 .773 .611 32.5 10.0 22.2 3.5 6.3 4.8 21.52
    15 Chauncey Billups, DET 11 31.2 .419 .836 .580 27.1 6.8 21.9 1.1 9.8 5.5 21.19
    16 Pau Gasol, LAL 12 40.5 .561 .726 .599 19.1 9.4 17.9 7.7 15.1 11.7 21.06
    17 Tony Parker, SAS 14 38.4 .492 .744 .547 20.4 10.6 26.6 1.7 9.7 5.7 19.76
    18 Carl Landry, HOU 6 17.7 .423 .750 .515 0.0 5.7 13.7 15.6 14.1 14.8 19.61
    19 Brendan Haywood, WAS 6 29.8 .591 .800 .655 7.6 9.1 14.0 8.4 17.7 13.1 19.54
    20 Amare Stoudemire, PHO 5 40.6 .485 .633 .517 1.6 10.9 23.8 8.6 17.5 13.0 18.96
    21 Shaquille O'Neal, PHO 5 30.0 .440 .500 .486 5.4 9.8 22.6 10.1 26.1 18.0 18.85
    22 Richard Hamilton, DET 13 38.0 .441 .896 .525 13.8 10.4 26.4 4.0 11.6 7.8 18.77
    23 Allen Iverson, DEN 4 39.5 .434 .697 .502 14.7 5.7 25.2 2.5 5.6 4.0 18.69
    24 Jason Kapono, TOR 5 30.4 .585 .750 .712 6.6 3.3 14.9 1.5 8.2 4.9 18.57
     
  19. hooroo

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    Look at the competition they are facing. They're not competiting against the same ends of a team.
     
  20. jopatmc

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    Ok dude. You asked for it.

    Only 26% of Kobe's points last year came from midrange where he shot a miserable 40%.

    Only 18% of Lebron's points last year came from midrange where he shot a miserable 35.8%.

    Only 16.8% of Amare's points last year came from midrange where he shot an outstanding 47.9%.

    Only 33% of Chris Pauls points last year came from midrange where he shot an outstanding 47.3%.



    Need I go on. Really.

    I didn't say it was easier to shoot a shot that is over half of half court. What I said is if you can shoot 40% out there, it is a more productive and efficient shot than a midrange shot.

    I also said that the two most important aspects of offensive efficiency are finishing a high percentage of shots at the rim and shooting the 3 pointer.

    I'm not disagreeing that the midrange game is a lost art. With the advent of the 3 point line and the changing defenses, that is true. There is a premium on the 3 point shot and that is why players practice it. And that is why NBA coaches ask their players to practice that skill. They ain't making millions of dollars because they are stupid.
     

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