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Landry, Rockets at odds

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocketman2000, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. yobod

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    I'm guessing that the Rockets are simply waiting to see what they can do with Alston, Lucas, Harris, and Reed before they commit any real money to Landry. I bet he gets signed soon after we are able to trim our roster down to allow for it. If that doesn't happen though, and we are forced to keep some of the guys we're trying to move, then I think it's just a hard luck situation for Landry, and he might have to play in Europe for a year. Not the end of the world for him, but definitely something he wasn't planning on doing.
     
  2. heypartner

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    first off...Harris is better than Landry right now.

    Did you not read the openning article. Harris has signed a partially gauranteed contract...sounds the same as what they offered Landry.

    lastly, if you sign Landry to a contract and send him to the D-League, we use up a roster spot on him.

    If we don't sign him, he still retain his rights. Only if we sign him and cut him do we lose his rights.

    So, since Harris is signed, he is going for a spot on the team this Fall...that's why we signed him. We offered Landry the same deal to compete. imo, he will lose out to Harris...but that doesn't mean I think either will make the team. I'm just saying that Harris is better right now. Better chance of making the team right now.

    that's my opinion. nothing else. but the Rockets are clearly giving him a shot at it.
     
  3. ThePrivate

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    Dude, the Rockets gave Harris a measly $50,000 dollar contract. They still need extra bodies for training camp, but it doesn't mean the Rockets have any plans for him to make the 15 man roster.

    Landry is going to make the 15 man roster, but will likely start the season on the inactive list. Might as well send him to the D-League to develop his game.
     
  4. sunfish

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    Jonathan:
    It's commensurate and not commiserate. ;)
     
  5. xiki

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    Who gives a flyin' hoot what an agent says? Let's only give a flyin' hoot for how he develops, performs, contributes to a Ring.
     
  6. heypartner

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    Where'd you get that number. That is below the minimum salary. Maybe that is the "gauranteed" part of the ~$400k minimum salary?

    also, we've yet to use the NBDL, and I don't see us using it this year, for sure. We are too deep. I find it extremely unlikely we will waste a roster spot on a player who is not NBA ready, just because we drafted him.

    I'd either sign him, as we offered (partial gaurantee), and give a spot to who wins it in pre-season between him and Harris, or I'd just not sign him and retain his rights for next year.
     
  7. ThePrivate

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    I am not going to include the $350,000 that he will never see from the Rockets. Trust me, he is just a training camp player, nothing more.

    You can't compare Adelman with JVG. Adelman may choose to have Landry play in the d-league for a while instead of watching games in street clothes.
     
  8. heypartner

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    Trust me, training camp players rarely get anything gauranteed.

    but you just don't seem to grasp something.

    We DONT HAVE TO SIGN Landry, and we still retain his draft rights....like Badiane. Do you not understand that? That's why we aren't offering him a real contract. He'll go to the NBDL on his own (or Europe), and we'll give him another look next year. There is no reason to sign him to a roster spot that he won't use.

    We can't do that with Harris. We don't have draft rights on Harris. It's either keep him or cut him.
     
  9. YallMean

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    Landry's situation is dependent on Rafer/Lucas/Sura's pending trading. If we can trim down the roster, he is in. If there is no taker, he and Harris might be odd man out, which I hate to see happen. I have no problem cutting rafer, but Les probably would since he has to pay him.
     
  10. H-TownBBall

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    Quick name me 4 players out of our possible 19 that Landry is better than. Can you still find 4 players when you consider what positions we need backups for/versatility of the player? Finally, can you really justify in all likelihood eating the salary of these 4 players and having them count against the salary cap for the duration of their contracts?

    Here is a link to salaries and go ahead and include Mutombo at 1.9M.
    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm
     
  11. A_3PO

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    Novak will get very little playing time unless he actually does something in real games. His great shooting in practice is worth zero. We have too many good players on this team to assume Novak will be anything more than a waterboy.

    Peja can put the ball on the floor occasionally and hit with a guy in his face. He is much more skilled than Novak. Not even close and never will be. Their talent levels are worlds apart. Peja also has a feel for what's going on. He just knows how to get open and make himself a factor. Novak has demonstrated no feel for the NBA game at any position. Peja's problem is he is the most gutless player in the NBA who has talent.

    I said the same thing after he was drafted. But summer league proved that Landry will have some issues in the NBA. He's not getting many minutes no matter where he goes. The perimeter game he showed at Purdue better translate because he got stuffed so many times inside this summer I lost count. It was very uninspiring.
     
  12. thumbs

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    First, Landry is just too small to play PF for more than a few minutes. However, I am more interested in your comments about Novak.

    You assert Peja "is much more skilled than Novak. Not even close and never will be. Their talent levels are worlds apart. Peja also has a feel for what's going on." I disagree. Novak, a coach's son, was acclaimed for his basketball IQ. However, because of JVG's coaching, he always played timidly and tentatively -- afraid to make a mistake. Most players, especially shooters, don't take well to that coaching style. I'm very curious as to how Threefer Novak plays this season under Adelman.
     
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    Apparently, Adelman thinks Novak at 5. That's the position he has been playing.

    I find that quite odd.
     
  14. A_3PO

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    I've watched Peja for a while. He has superstar talent but with no heart. He is very savvy & skilled but can be intimidated and harassed into being a non-factor. I've lost count of the number of times he has disappeared during crunch time of key games. His talent, not heart, is what got him the ridiculous contract from the Hornets.

    You're on about Novak. On the skill comparison, there isn't much room for debate IMO. But if playing for Adelman helps him move better without the ball and hit open shots, I'm all for it.
     
  15. SpiffyRifi

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    so how much CAN the Rockets pay him without going into luxury tax land? I didn't think we had any room to pay him!
     
  16. abc2007

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    We pay Deke too much. We should have used that money to develop young players.
     
  17. ThePrivate

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    Sorry dude, I was trolling at a Panther's MB.

    If I am not mistaken when Deke and Landry signs the Rockets will have 20 players under contract.

    I have said this all along, so it is nothing new - the players that are on the 15 man roster come the start of the season will be:

    1. Yao
    2. McGrady
    3. Battier
    4. Scola
    5. Steve
    6. Deke
    7. Hayes
    8. Bonzi
    9. James
    10. Butler
    11. Novak
    12. Head (He may get traded with Rafer)

    3 inactive players:

    1. Kirk
    2. AB
    3. Landry

    Players who are traded, bought out, or cut:

    1. Sura
    2. Rafer
    3. JL3
    4. Reed
    5. Harris
     
  18. ThePrivate

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    Why would you say at the 5 when the Rockets haven't even played a damn game yet?

    If you are talking the Vegas Summer league, then give me a break!
     
  19. AGBee

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    Because there's sooooo many teams knocking down our doors for Rafer :p

    The season starts next month.
     
  20. BigM

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    novak sucked because of jvg. right. shooters don't take well to his coaching style. uh-huh, yup.

    thumbs, your rockets posts are always great for a laugh, keep at it.
     
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