Now he is trying to claim that he did nothing after 2005. Clearly, this must have to do with statute of limitations stuff - why should ANYONE believe him NOW?
He is lying his ass off now. "I'm not the most believable guy in the world right now, I understand". No kidding...
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8852974/lance-armstrong-history-lying Among my emails Wednesday morning, out of the blue, was one from Lance Armstrong. Riles, I'm sorry. All I can say for now but also the most heartfelt thing too. Two very important words. L And my first thought was ... "Two words? That's it?" Two words? For 14 years of defending a man? And in the end, being made to look like a chump? Wrote it, said it, tweeted it: "He's clean." Put it in columns, said it on radio, said it on TV. Staked my reputation on it. "Never failed a drug test," I'd always point out. "Most tested athlete in the world. Tested maybe 500 times. Never flunked one." Why? Because Armstrong always told me he was clean. On the record. Off the record. Every kind of record. In Colorado. In Texas. In France. On team buses. In cars. On cell phones. I'd sit there with him, in some Tour de France hotel room while he was getting his daily postrace massage. And we'd talk through the hole in the table about how he stared down this guy or that guy, how he'd fooled Jan Ullrich on the torturous Alpe d'Huez into thinking he was gassed and then suddenly sprinted away to win. How he ordered chase packs from the center of the peloton and reeled in all the pretenders. And then I'd bring up whatever latest charge was levied against him. "There's this former teammate who says he heard you tell doctors you doped." "There's this former assistant back in Austin who says you cheated." "There's this assistant they say they caught disposing of your drug paraphernalia." And every time -- every single time -- he'd push himself up on his elbows and his face would be red and he'd stare at me like I'd just shot his dog and give me some very well-delivered explanation involving a few dozen F words, a painting of the accuser as a wronged employee seeking revenge, and how lawsuits were forthcoming. And when my own reporting would produce no proof, I'd be convinced. I'd go out there and continue polishing a legend that turned out to be plated in fool's gold. Even after he retired, the hits just kept coming. A London Times report. A Daniel Coyne book. A U.S. federal investigation. All liars and thieves, he'd snarl. I remember one time we talked on the phone for half an hour, all off the record, at his insistence, and I asked him three times, "Just tell me. Straight up. Did you do any of this stuff?" "No! I didn't do s---!" And the whole time he was lying. Right in my earpiece. Knowing that I'd hang up and go back out there and spread the fertilizer around some more. And now, just like that, it's all flipped. Thursday and Friday night we'll see him look right into the face of Oprah Winfrey and tell her just the opposite. He'll tell her, she says, that he doped to win. I get it. He's ruined. He's lost every single sponsor. Nearly every close teammate has turned on him. All seven Tour de France titles have been stripped. He could owe millions. He might be in a hot kettle with the feds. Even the future he planned for himself -- triathlons and mountain biking -- have been snatched away. He's banned from those for life. So I get it. The road to redemption goes through Oprah, where he'll finally say those two very important words, "I'm sorry," and hope the USADA will cut the ban from lifetime to the minimum eight years. But here's the thing. When he says he's sorry now, how do we know he's not still lying? How do we know it's not just another great performance by the all-time leader in them? And I guess I should let it go, but I keep thinking how hard he used me. Made me look like a sap. Made me carry his dirty water and I didn't even know it. Look, I've been fooled before. I believed Mark McGwire was hitting those home runs all on his own natural gifts. I believed Joe Paterno couldn't possibly cover up something so grisly as child molestation. I bought Manti Te'o's girlfriend story. But those people never looked me square in the pupils and spit. It's partially my fault. I let myself admire him. Let myself admire what he'd done with his life, admire the way he'd not only beaten his own cancer but was trying to help others beat it. When my sister was diagnosed, she read his book and got inspired. And I felt some pride in that. I let it get personal. And now I know he was living a lie and I was helping him live it. I didn't realize that behind those blues was a bully, a coercer, a man who threatened people who once worked for and with him. The Andreus. Emma O'Reilly. Tyler Hamilton. Armstrong was strong-arming people in the morning, and filing lawsuits and op-ed pieces in the afternoon. We'd talk and his voice would get furious. And I'd believe him. And all along, the whole time, he was acting, just like he had with Ullrich that day. So now the chase pack has reeled in Lance Armstrong, and he is busted and he's apologizing to those he conned. I guess I should forgive him. I guess I should give him credit for putting himself through worldwide shame. I guess I should thank him for finally admitting his whole magnificent castle was built on sand and syringes and suckers like me. But I'm not quite ready. Give me 14 years, maybe. You're sorry, Lance? No, I'm the one who's sorry.
Goodness...he is still lying...about the "donation" to the UCI. Probably had legal advice to not admit that.
I am so conflicted watching this. Why would you go public and admit to doping which will result in time in jail but then a lot of the answers still seemed to come across as lies. I just don't understand why you would lie now... I dont know if he is or isn't. I am that conflicted I don't even think this makes sense haha
After more than 20 years of lying...he is still lying. But - at least he did apologize to the people he bullied. I don't think they will care very much for his apology, and his continuing lies are not making things better, but at least he did say it is inexcusable. Too little, too late, but still.
He's still smug, laughing about this. "I called her crazy and a b****, but I never called her fat"...smug smile.
What is going to be interesting is how he is remembered in 20 years time. The biggest drug cheat/fraud of all time or someone who raised nearly half a billion for cancer and has inspired so many millions of people which would not have happened if he didn't have such a huge public profile from winning 7 Tour de Frances
I must say Oprah is doing this well. She could be a bit tougher, but she is not totally soft. Not like that rookie female reporter doing that Royce White interview on ESPN OTL.
Oprah is doing awesome and Lance is still coming off like a lying prick. What's the point of having a confession interview if you are still going to tell half truths? Unbelievable this guy's character is the lowest of low. He has no remorse.
What the hell is wrong with Lance? Another lie... ANOTHER LIE -- I thought it was ground hog's day. Another lie -- get the **** out of here -- we love Lance so much we let the first lie slide. I'm done -- I'M ****ING DONE WITH LANCE -- i'm turning in my gloves. I saw Lance on Oprah Winfrey... easiest GED questions and Lance could not pass the test. Oprah Winfrey looked at Lance like ***** is you crazy!? What the **** is wrong with that boy -- i'm done with Lance... what the ****? What the **** is wrong with Lance? Another lie... another lie? That's like another dead white girl showing up at OJ's house... and OJ is like, "I know what ya thinking." Remember when we used to have those arguments about who was better? LeMond or Armstrong? LeMond won.
DonnyMost, you should just own up, admit you were wrong and move on. I read through the other threads on this topic and you were right there, in all of them defending Lance until you were blue in the face. You literally have hundreds of posts on this very bbs defending lance Armstrong, calling this whole thing a witch hunt and saying that there is no proof. Bottom Line: YOU WERE WRONG. That's OK. Lance duped a lot of people who trusted and believed in him. So at least admit you were wrong and move along and the rest of the bbs should question your decision making ability on any predictions or proclamations you make in the future because in my personal opinion this one was easy, it was clear for anyone to see how Guilty Lance was and what a poor character guy he really is. I question your stances from this point forward.
Considering I think you're one of the worst people on this board (astoundingly insecure, passive aggressive, vindictive, petty, judgmental, incessantly trolling, immature, holier-than-thou, among many other terrible character traits...), sleep well knowing I really don't give a damn about what you think. I've already admitted I was wrong about the only thing I made an assumption on, which was that Lance wouldn't be caught. I also made amends with ATW for being antagonistic towards him at times (something I forgive him for as well). I did *not* think Armstrong was a man of great character (something I've mentioned many times), I did *not* think he was innocent (I posted in August that I thought it likely he was a cheater, well before the USADA report), and nothing you say or post will change that or prove otherwise. I do think a few of the stories aimed at assassinating his character are a little overboard (not that it needed much assassinating in the first place), but that is to be expected with people who feel cheated, duped, lied to, etc. They will often go beyond scope to justify their hatred. I'm not shocked in the least bit that you don't understand the concept of defending someone out of sheer fairness. You don't have to like someone to defend them, nor do you have to think they're innocent. I waited until the case against him had convinced me (albeit as cynical as I was) before I was willing to pull out the tar and feathers. I am not the least bit ashamed or embarrassed for waiting for the smoking gun before burying Lance. And the fact that you think I should be (including your multithread obsession with me) says a lot about your character, and not mine. Of course, you probably did this because you're so narcissistic you wanted to talk about yourself, so this will be my last response to you on this BBS ever. I hope you turn the corner some day. Peace.
