I won't believe he comes clean until I see it. I always thought this guy would take his lies to his deathbed.
He's going on Oprah... it is set. He's doing it just to make money again. America is quite forgiving when people come clean, see Andy Pettitte vs Clemens... although Pettitte admitted it when first confronted. Armstrong has blatantly lied for years.
Looks like he "confessed" and said that he wants to name "powerful people" who knew, but not other cyclists. Will watch it. My assumption is: Too little, too late.
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I accept everyone's apology who attacked me and defended Armstrong on this board over the last 10 years.
I was wondering if you were going to take the high road or not. Guess not. LOL. I've been following cycling since the Lemond, Hinault, and Fignon days, so I knew he was crooked.
It's hard not to LOL at anyone who is surprised/shocked by this. I'm not apologizing to anybody for defending Armstrong, because the case against him until USADA published its report was pretty much weaksauce, and the gotcha crusade had become farcical. I don't really care much that he's a douche, as I knew that beforehand. I said I wanted to see better evidence, and they finally came out with it, in spades. So, I'm satisfied. Was the Oprah interview taped yesterday? It airs Thursday, right? Not going to watch it, but I'll catch the highlights.
Duh? I didn't give a **** that he doped, but the lives he ruined and tried to ruin while lying about this is unforgiveable. It'd be nice if Oprah asks him about that, but I doubt it.
Off topic, but do you believe Pettitte? "Pettitte said he tried HGH on two occasions, stressing he did it to heal faster and not enhance his performance. He emphasized he never used steroids." I don't. That being said, he is given the benefit of the doubt due to being more up front that Clemens (and others).
he should be thrown out of Texas and thrown out of the USA for that matter, i.e. exiled. he should also go broke and be sued for everything he has. i don't think he started his charity with honorable intentions, either. he did it to prepare for this day to lessen the blow. anyone who would lie all these years like he did and cheat his way to the top has no honorable intentions. it really is sad. he is a sad excuse for a human being. lie after lie all these years. he was akin to a mafia boss in the sport of cycling. the worst part imo is he cheated himself out of several years of a legit chance to be a potentially clean winner. why would you go through all that knowing you are cheating and waste several years of your life doing so? i guess because he had to admit to himself he was not good enough to compete while clean while trying to achieve his goals honorably. or, he believed he couldn't compete knowing other cyclists from other teams were doping so he would do anything he could to change that.
You wouldn't have a legit chance if you didn't cheat. You know why they didn't award the trophy to second place finisher or third place finisher because they cheated too. Everyone cheated and he did it better than anyone else both on the field and in the lab.
Yep!!! As I've been stating for the last 12 years. You don't beat a league of Barry Bonds by staying clean.
It was tongue-in-cheek and not directed at anyone in particular, but I guess some of the right people felt like I talked about them .
That argument doesn't hold water - that doesn't make it right. You are right that everyone else cheated, but there are many, many cyclists who do not cheat and who might have made it to the Tour de France, but never did, because the mafia-esque system put in place by Armstrong and his fellow criminals prevented them from even being able to qualify to enter.
It's also not fair to throw all of the scorn for tainting the sport or denying legit competitors an opportunity onto Armstrong. I think that's what he's saying. Plus, when the entire field cheats, your accomplishments don't end up looking so illegitimate after all. Unlike, say, the baseball guys. I think Armstrong's character as a person is what is really suffering from this. Not his athletic legacy, accomplishments, or impact on the sport of cycling.
Yes, it is fair, because not only did he cheat himself, he pressured others into it, intimidated and threatened people, and thereby was not only part of the system, he defined the system. We are not talking about a low-level gang member here. We are talking about one of the godfathers of this disgusting mafia.