Literally 16/17/18 in Passer rating. Lamar has the lowest completion percentage and per game passing and lower totals. Yes he played less games but still had lower per game. Stop being an idiot and blinded by some kind of bias. Lamar is not a top 10 qb and wasn’t this year
Is this right? So teams that don’t own 2 firsts of their own but have other firsts can’t do it? That can’t be right, right?
So you bring up rushing yards when we talk about Drake Maye, but when discussing Lamar Jackson you just completely neglect that. I see what we’re doin here.
I didn’t say he was a top 10 passing QB. Your comments are a line of straw man ****ing arguments. I called you out for saying he was the same as Brady and Rodgers. Which he wasn’t by anything except strict passing numbers. You talk about film but you clearly don’t watch it.
The conversation was about passing and Quarterback play. If he was a top 5 QB, he’s not. Drake Maye is a miles better passer than Lamar will ever be. And he had 3 TDs this year on 700 yds. Even if you add those to his totals he’s not above Brady or Rodgers. Look at the damn numbers before you make a fool of yourself.
Aaron Rodgers was near the bottom of the league in QBR. Brady was significantly lower. I realize QBR is a bit subjective and not perfect, but if you look at the overall rankings and compare to the top QBs, it usually pans out okay. You’re the dinosaur touting batting average over WAR or OPS. I only brought up Maye bc you clearly only factor in skills when they benefit your argument. I’m not comparing their passing ability. Again, another ****ing straw man. Since you are jaded against Lamar, his other abilities don’t matter. And just so I am clear, before you start another straw man argument. I have no interest in giving up 2 firsts for LJ. Pass. I’m just done arguing with the old mastodon scout in Moneyball.
Ahh yes, the QBR argument. Maye had better or equal passing numbers than Stroud and Bryce, the rushing was an added bonus that the other two didn’t have. Lamar isn’t close to their numbers passing, and literally no one would choose Lamar over Brady or Rodgers. The only bias here is yours. But whatever man, your poor takes aren’t worth my time. Take Lamar and his pitiful playoff performances with you
Here you go acting like I’m comparing Drake Maye to LJ. Let’s see if you can comprehend the following sentence: LJ had similar passing numbers to Brady and Rodgers. The rushing yards, which were 600+ more than Rodgers and 700+ more than Brady, are the added bonus that the other 2 didn’t have. I hope you can understand that, bc you know, it’s literally your words when talking about Drake Maye. Remember, this comparison is about Rodgers, Brady, and LJ. And remember, we are talking about this year. Now you can go back to talking about how Drake Maye projects as a better passer than LJ (which I agree with btw, and I would argue Maye is already a better passer of the football) while I put you on the ignore list.
What?! You brought up Maye, don’t move goalposts when they’re convenient for you. And no, the numbers for the three were not the same. Metrics were similar but not counting stats, even if you add in Lamar’s rushing numbers. Mayes number’s cumulatively were far better than his peers. Lamar’s cumulatively were still lower
Yes I did, to compare how YOU move the goalposts when evaluating players. Not to compare Maye’s ability with Lamar. Something I have explained in the last 4 posts and somehow am still having to spell out.
I haven’t moved any goalposts. Take away Lamar’s rushing and he’s a bottom of the league passer. Take away Drakes rushing and he’s still a top tier passer. The fact you can’t understand that is the problem. There’s a reason Lamar has no postseason success, he’s not good enough when his rushing is game planned for. He has immense talent, but unless he improves his processing and reads (better OC would help) he’s going to decline rapidly.
I feel like you are pretty much only discussing passing yards. So yes, you are correct, Lamar does not throw for nearly as many passing yards as many other QBs. We can agree on that. If only passing yards won games.
