Ima have to agree with Easy and BB1988. Sorry T_mac1 and superstar but you guys are kinda way off. Its not Yao's fault Rafer and tmac and shane and whoever else arent consistent, most of the times centers wont even get doubled, being doubled is something a player earns.
Tim Duncan never get D Team anymore bc teams have found out that they get hurt more doing so. Duncan attacks the Double and easily found the teammates in easy scoring positions. Yao get D teamed alot bc he has proven that he can't handle it. when Yao show that he can handle D team, teams will stop D-teaming him
I think by going to Yao first (inside out) we do get pretty good shots. The problem is when you have Rafer, Shane, Artest, Tmac, on the floor together, there is no one that can knock down the open shot consistently. We have to have consistent shooting for that inside out game to work consistently. If their perimeter defenders have to respect the shot, then the inside game will open up for Yao. Bring Mike Miller or Hinrich to Houston.
except we're actually a pretty good 3 point shooting team. exactly. while he is doubled because he's about as hard to stop one-on-one as anyone in the league, relative to the hakeem/shaq/duncan's of the world (or even gasol), yao sucks at dealing with double teams. and that's really why he is doubled so much. he's usually just trying not to turn it over. a good pass is just a bonus. how many times does he start dribbling and then try to throw it one-handed out to someone and have the pass be high or wide so that the person has to jump or lunge for it? a lot. and most times it isn't that he's identified a wide open player, it's just someone he can get it to and the defense usually recovers pretty quickly. the reason this happens is as soon as 2 people get on him the odds of a turnover go WAY up. other great big men can calmly evaluate the floor while the double is on them. of course most of this just goes back to yao being 7'6 and being the slowest, most unathletic player on the court by a wide margin. shaq and hakeem and duncan have the ability and agility to move around and deal with trouble, yao gets planted to the floor and flustered and just tries to get rid of it, which only occasionally leads to an open shot. that's why he doesn't even average 2 apg even though we know he is unselfish and gets the ball in the post plenty. but that doesn't mean i'd trade him for gasol. the doubling does still lead to open shots, he does score more on a lower scoring team, and he's a far bigger presence on defense, even with all his limitations.
Easy, Which other star big man has as much trouble as Yao when it comes to handling double teams? Doubling Yao is effective and often leads to turnovers or bad passes. You think it's as simple as teammates hitting 3s but I think there's more to it. Yao often turns the ball over and his passes are easily telegraphed by the opponent.
That's plain stupid. Any teams without physical centers like Okur and M. Gasol and with little help from the refs dont D team Yao will get murdered times and times again and it has been proven many times. Shaq attacked D team every times yet opponents team still double him, why? Because that's the only way to slow Shaq down. Same apply to Yao!
Your logic is funny. If Yao can't handle it, how come his production is still better than Gasol's? Yes, I know how Yao doesn't handle double team very well. If only he could handle it better, he would be like Shaq in the prime. But that doesn't mean he is atrocious against double team. He still creates wide open shots for teammates. You still haven't answered my challenge. You say Gasol is a better player. Show me how he is better?
Often? How often? Give me some numbers. Show me Yao's turnovers offset his production and getting teammates open shot enough to be worse than a guy like Gasol. Until you can show me Yao getting doubled is worse than Gasol not getting doubled, your argument has no weight. Don't get me wrong. I think Gasol is a very good player. I think if the Lakers didn't rob Memphis, they wouldn't be what they are now. But man, if the could trade Gasol for Yao, you think they wouldn't?
thank you for corrboration. but on this one, i don't need your help you need to understand the word nullified. Yao's effectiveness as a baller is nullified, invariably, when his is being D-teamed. he gets freaked out by it. u need to improve on your reading comprehension. u or someone made the claim that because Yao was D teamed more, that makes him better. i pointed out the fallacy in that claim, never saying that people (such as Duncan) who have shown that they can handle the D Team will never get D-teamed and, on the flip side, those who can't handle the D Team (Yao) will continue to get D-teamed.
Yao's FG% this year isn't too shabby either. But unlike Pau, Yao has to put up with some moody, erratic, lazy, and selfish sorry-ass "superstar" teammate who engulfs a big chunk of team's salary.
Yao and Gasol are scoring in different ways, with Yao being the better primary scorer and Gasol the better complementary scorer. What separates them is on defensive side, Gasol is soft compared to Yao and he couldn't challenge shots like Yao does.
It was but I definitely think Kobe with the finger pointing to Rondo was funnier. I will say it's rare in the NBA where two teams genuinely dislike each other and we seem to be reaching that point with the Lakers and Celtics. I guess you could say there's some animosity between the Cavs/Wizards but the Cavs absolutely own the Wizards so it's hard to really get excited about that. Same with the Spurs/Suns.
I wouldn't say they dislike each other. Both teams just think they are bad asses, and like to swing their dicks to prove it. Both are cocky and want to prove that each is the better team, which ultimately would be the best team in the NBA.
I don't know if they generally just dislike each other. This game may lead to that point though if they meet in the NBA championship. Still trying to figure out why my boy Rondo pushed Kobe though. Unless I missed something it looked like Kobe was just trying to help Odom or whoever that was off the ground.
Because that affects how Allen can't get a clean look at a 3 off? He pushed away Fisher's arm with like 1 second left. If the Refs would have called a foul, It would just be adding to the fire of ticky tacky fouls that the NBA is starting to call over and over.
NBA COAST TO COAST by Mark Heisler of the LA Times. Lakers won nothing but Celtics lost a lot No, the Lakers' victory in Boston didn't lock up the NBA title. They won't even get a trophy for winning the season series. However, they did rock the Celtics' world. Paul Pierce noted, "It's not the end of the world," suggesting that was how it felt. After beating the Lakers to a pulp last spring, the Celtics thought they owned them -- making it dismaying when they don't, with Andrew Bynum out. Suggesting how surprised the Celtics were, Kevin Garnett noted ruefully: "L.O. [Lamar Odom], watching film, he has not been this aggressive in 15, 10 games. That team looked a lot different than they did on film." Cry me a river Further suggesting their dismay, the Celtics, who have broken with tradition and become gracious -- off the floor -- were outraged that Derek Fisher got away with riding Ray Allen off course on the final play in overtime. "The officials say they don't call the game different from the first quarter to the end," said Coach Doc Rivers. ". . . If that's true, Ray should have been on the free-throw line." This just in: They call it different at the end. If the Celtics lost on a call for something that light, they would go home in ambulances. The Boston Globe's Bob Ryan wrote that better referees than Leon Wood, Monte McCutcheon and Jim Capers were required. I'd guess Jesus, Buddha and Moses could have worked the game and this loss would still be on Them. Who's bad now? The Celtics, who don't lead the league in technical fouls for nothing, went all out, Garnett jabbering in Odom's face and Rajon Rondo daring to shove Kobe Bryant as Rivers told TNT the referees "aren't letting us play our game" . . . which, presumably, would have been full-contact wrestling. Afterward, however, Rivers said they were getting fouls for being "the retaliators." That would make the Lakers the aggressors, the greatest compliment of all . Not to pick on the Globe, which has a great section, but the rush onto the Internet has us all learning as we go. The Globe's site has video interviews with transcripts produced by voice recognition software, which, readers are advised, may not be completely accurate. This was Pierce: "We've got to go out and execute and not turn the ball over and just play our game through all the adversity." This was the transcript: "We've got a glove and XQ. Nazi iron bar lower than you know display are against the islanders." .........
