I doubt it. I really think there's going to be a good market for Gasol this summer. See my earlier post. He's still a productive player and basically would be on a 1-year contract. For teams with cap room than miss out on Dwight/CP3, I think it'd actually be smarter to trade for Gasol (if the cost is reasonable) and try again in 2014, as opposed to signing someone in the Smith/Millsap/Jefferson tier for a four-year, near-max deal. The money won't mean that much when it's a one-year, expiring deal.
Hehe. Yep, a big part of them when the game was already a blowout. And Gasol was mainly a center for Spain. And Kleiza dropped 25 on much more talented Americans in a close game, many of them directly on Durant. It's absolutely a lame argument. But I was just trying to copy you. Btw, I don't disagree with the general point that Gasol hasn't been impressive defensively during this NBA season, especially at PF. Just with your specific argument re Olympics. You just randomly picked a game where a guy scored a lot of points in a blowout and most of them not even on Gasol. That's silly. For the most part, Gasol was very good in the Olympics on both ends. Some of his best basketball.
I'd trade for Gasol, let him up his stock here then if need be dump him in the offseason. People act like an extremely skilled true 7ft. C on an expiring won't have value or something.
I can see the benefits for OTHER teams, I just can't see the Lakers gaining much in that scenario save a salary dump. Why would they want to hold on to Gasol until the summer, only to dump him on someone else in order to save lux tax. To make that move effectively costs them $20m in tax THIS season. Sure, it saves them the mega tax next time around, but if they can't get rid of him at the deadline, I could quite easily see them saving $20m in tax by using the amnesty. I fail to see how paying $20m in tax for him is a good move on their part. Soooo I don't think Pau lasts until the summer with the Lakers. Either he's gone or he's amnestied. (I'm cheering for the amnesty because surely we're best placed to make a bid for his services there!)
Did you watch the game? It was close all the way till the fourth. Also, I picked that game just to make a point, but I could've selected from many games in this season to do the same. International play is really less competitive than NBA play, I'm merely stating the fact that an NBA player like Yi can have his way with Gasol, much like what alot of bigs have been doing this season. So basically, Pau sucks. Got schooled by Yi Jillian, Carlos Boozer, McGee, Faried, Aldridge, Cousins, etc etc.
Gasol's value is at an all time low even though he nearly dismantled team USA this summer. You could do worse than Gasol.
Too much risk not enough reward. I agree that he's an extremely skilled 7 footer yes but his contract isn't expiring this summer. It expires next summer when he's 34. He's already shown great decline in his game for reasons aside from teammates/coaching. Fact of the matter is his age and health are major concerns. Also he has a trade kicker this season so he would eat up nearly $22M in cap space instead of $19M. Imagine if Gasol comes here and he continues to struggle and or misses a string of games because of his lingering injuries? That would be absolutely disastrous. We would be helping the Lakers more than they would be helping us. Best case scenario is he comes here and is healthy and puts up 15 and 9 and provides us with a legit offensive post threat and helps us reach the First round of the playoffs. I love the playoffs as much as the next fan but that's IF Gasol stays healthy and performs. It would be difficult to trade Gasol even if he were healthy and performing at a higher level. The way things are right now I'd say it's damn near impossible and I'd imagine Morey would be the last guy to assume that sort of risk.
Yes, you clearly don't remember the game. Yi played garbage minutes (which was bigger part of the 4th really) and went into hero ball and boosted his stats quite a bit. Like i said, a big part of his points came when it was already a blowout. And he didn't really score much when matched up with Gasol throughout the game. "Yi lit up Gasol." That's just not true. Like I said, if you picked some good examples from this season, I wouldn't argue with you. Just don't touch the Olympics if you don't remember them.
Why isn't any of his decline being attributed to him playing out of position? The guy is a C. Look what he did to team USA. The last time people were afraid of Pau, he was playing at C with Lamar Odom at the 4.
Why are you guys arguing about Olympic basketball? This is the NBA Dish not International Dish. If we're gonna talk about olympic basketball we can argue about how Carlos Arroyo schooled the dream team.
I saw the game, but my memory isn't fresh. The system that Spain runs was just weak, and allowed Yi to catch and shoot half the time. Gasol didn't match up with Yi all that much, I'll give you that. I'll concede that Pau had a decent run in the Olympics against lesser competition. I don't want to talk about the Olympics, that's what I've been getting at. The mentality which allowed Yi (who avgs like 5 pts in the NBA) to get comfy without taking it personally, that translates to the NBA where players will eat you up. Pau doesn't play physical basketball at ALL. And even when he tries to post up he's failed many many times this year, and it's actually sad to watch. Pair him with Dwight, who turns the ball once every 5 touches, and I'm not sure what the hubbub is all about. If Pau is such an underutilized talent, why aren't the GM's and trade scouts (who I assume know more basketball than you) slobbering at the chance to get him while all of Lakerland views him as a washup? Admit it, it's because he IS. No one should be getting paid even half of 19 mil if they're playing like Gasol. No one.
First of all we don't have anybody on the caliber of Lamar Odom when he was winning Championships with the Lakers so your point is moot but I'll play anyways..... Okay so if we're going to trade for Gasol and play him heavy minutes at the 5 will Asik be a part of the deal or will he be moved to the bench? God knows Asik can't play power forward so we're going to have our $25 Million dollar asset err (off-season acquisition) sit on the bench while Gasol plays heavy minutes? Or if Asik is a part of the deal we're dealing him for someone who's 6 years older, has injury concerns and also comes with a price tag that's 4 times more expensive? Or in an odd scenario we keep both then we're going to have them split minutes at the center spot and set the record for most money tied up in the center position? Or we can have Gasol come here and play the 4 and struggle? Any way you look at it Gasol doesn't fit here.
Has Pau been "out of position" the last 4 years playing PF next to Bynum while putting up at least 18/10 each of those seasons? That isn't the problem. D'Antoni's coaching is the issue. He's clueless. The #1 job of the coach is to find the comfort zone(s) of his players and mesh whatever offensive system he has with those players. This such a clear case of coaching ineptitude it's historically funny. Or is should it be hysterically funny. Too good to be true.
Well, first of all, it seems that this is taking a bit of a personal turn, so i'll rather pass on that. Secondly, I've said that Gasol hasn't been good this season. I mean, that's obvious, but I also said it in one of the previous replies to you. Since we agree there, I don't really see much point in that discussion. Your original post was "Pau sucks. Got schooled by yi Jillian in the Olympics", and there's just so much wrong with that second statement that I wrote a short reply. You weren't happy about it, I expanded. Nothing more to see here. If you started talking about how Wade sucks because Arroyo "schooled" him in some Olympic game, I'd reply with a "facepalm" type of post as well.
Add that too my argument as well. I think Gasol *could possibly* have more success at the 5 spot under a different coach but it doesn't matter. He's not the answer here.
I don't believe the guy was trying to make the point that Gasol would only fit here as a C (out of all teams in the league). It's the NBAdish, he was just making the point that Gasol is a C, and is being badly used by the Lakers in a desperate attempt to woo Howard to stay. He has a fair point and your 'rebuttal' is odd...
Rocks fan, LA resident here. Southwest Houston raised. Out here in LA the talk all day on the radio ain't been about trading Gasol. It's been about trading Howard. They think he checked out and is playing out the string. My bad if this is repeat info.
