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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by No Chill Rocket, Dec 23, 2015.

  1. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    This is such a badass post showing the truth will always win

    and 99ers rule all of clutchfans
     
  2. HR Dept

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    rekt.
     
  3. rezdawg

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    Lol, realist got taken.

    And as far as Kobe...where was that defense in the first half? Barton not scoring in the second half had to do more with Barton missing, than Kobe playing good defense.

    Source: I watched the game bc Barton helped me win money in draft kings.

    In any case, Barton is a solid player, not a scrub...and as was shown, Harden didn't play defense against him when they played. So, yeah.
     
  4. aelliott

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    Ok, so you obviously read a quote about last nights game and took it as fact. Here's the video of every shot that Barton took last night.
    http://on.nba.com/1NCzt4l

    Kobe guarded him on 5 of them. Here's a summary of those shots:

    3rd Quarter 4:29: Barton blows by Kobe and gets slapped on the arm causing him to miss a dunk.

    3rd Quarter 3:34 : Pick and Roll, Randall gets switched to Barton. Barton misses an open 3 point shot. Kobe's not in the play.

    3rd quarter: 2:12 Kobe gets picked off and Barton misses an open 15 footer

    3rd quarter: 1:10 Barton blows by Kobe and scores over Randall in the lane.Kobe is way behind the play.

    4th Quarter: 3:37 - Barton blows by Kobe and ends up missing a double pump shot after being double teamed by Randall and Clarkson.Again Kobe is about 5 feet behind the play.

    Additionally, Barton had a single turnover in the game and Kobe wasn't guarding him either.
    http://on.nba.com/1PkF3Jc

    There's the video. Please show me the examples of Kobe locking down Barton. Yes Barton missed shots but not because of Kobe's defense.

    Likewise, go back to the previous post and show me where Barton was scoring on Harden. In the two games there's two hoops where Harden is guarding him.

    It's video, you can't really argue with it regardless of what quote you read. Barton got doubled and he just missed some open shots. The fact is that Kobe guarded Barton on 5 of his 21 shots and there's not a single instance of Kobe's defense affecting any of Clarkson's shots nor did he force any turnovers.

    If Kobe locked down Barton then it should be on the video. Likewise, if Barton burned Harden then it too should be on video. Please point out those cases.

    Here's the links to the two Rockets games again in order to make it easy for you:
    http://on.nba.com/1YaCXjh

    http://on.nba.com/1lM52zJ
     
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  5. apollo33

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    double damnn
     
  6. Drogba

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    Realist ain't posting in this thread again. GOD DAMN
     
  7. Haymitch

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    Sometimes I forget why I have someone on Ignore, and then they go and remind me. Thanks breh.
     
  8. J Sizzle

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    Reading this thread...

    *grabs popcorn*
     
  9. DreamShook

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    RIP TheRealist137
     
  10. Camarograna2

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    :eek: where is the popcorn
     
  11. AstroMechPLZ

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    Realist digging himself a deeper and deeper grave...
     
  12. rocketsballin

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    that means we're worse than the lakers. lawd have merthy! not the fkn lakers. first the nets, then the nuggets, now the lakers! whats tnext the sixers? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
     
  13. TheRealist137

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    Unfortunately your entire post is based off a faulty premise that good defense only equates to forcing a player to shoot and miss. Wrong, half the battle is preventing a player from taking shots in the first place, which is why those videos are deceitful. Will Barton shot FIVE SHOTS and went 1-5 in the 2nd half, that's after scoring 23 points on 9-16 in the 1st half.

    One final quote from THE COACH about Kobe's defense on Will Barton

    I'm not wrong, you are.
     
  14. aelliott

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    So the coach said something nice about his aging star who is a shell of his former self and you take it as fact? Did you actually watch the video of Barton going around Kobe any time he liked?

    So, you weren't wrong ? Still say Barton is a scrub?

    I also noticed that you haven't sited any examples from the video of Barton going off on Harden. Are you going to reply to that?
     
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    Destroyed. Brutal.

    Realist, anytime you're taking 38 year old Kobe's defense as your argument's defense, you're probably in the wrong. Is it possible Kobe puts together 1 or 2 decent quarters of passable NBA defense? yea, of course, but that means little.
     
  17. TheRealist137

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    Oh yeah? Do you understand that if Will Barton could drive around Kobe at will, why did he only shoot 5 times in the 2nd half while Kobe was guarding him? Shouldn't he have shot the ball another 16 times?

    and I said Kobe did a better defensive job on Barton than Harden did. That is true because Kobe did an exceptional job in the 2nd half. Will Barton was killing both the Lakers and the Rockets in the games in question, but only Kobe took the responsibility of locking him down. Harden did not lock anybody down in those games, therefore, he did not lock Will Barton down.

    Will Barton isn't a complete scrub, but he is a bench player and is a career 6.5 PPG scorer. Even still characterizing Barton as a complete scrub was the only part of my post that was inaccurate. This one inaccuracy pales in comparison to the BS you have spewed so far. First in saying that Kobe didn't guard Barton, and then thinking that good defense is not about preventing players from taking shots in the first place.

    Lol, sure Kobe didn't guard Barton. :rolleyes:
     
  18. aelliott

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    Did you watch the video? Everytime Barton went around Kobe there was always one or two players waiting to help on him. Did you notice the made basket where Kobe is trailing by 4 or 5 feet yet Barton has to shoot over Randall? The one where Barton turns the corner and leaves Kobe behind yet he ends up shooting a double pump shot over Randall and Clarkson?

    Secondly, Barton only averages 12 shots per game so why do you think it's meaningful that he only took 12 shots in a half? He got open jumpers and missed, he went to the rim and got doubled. Why would he take 16 shots in that situation?

    Why do you keep saying that Kobe did a better job on Barton than Harden did when Harden didn't guard Barton?
    Are you saying that Harden didn't lock down Barton simply because he didn't guard him? So when we play the Spurs we can say that Leonard didn't lock down Beverly because he didn't guard him? That doesn't make much sense.

    So exactly how do think Kobe locked down Barton? Do you believe that Barton was unable to get the ball? Do you believe Kobe forced turnovers? What exactly do you think that Kobe did that prevented Barton from shooting?

    Out of curiosity, how many minutes do you think Kobe guarded Barton in that game?
     
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  19. chenjy9

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    TheRealist137 just keeps digging himself a deeper grave...
     
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    They have kobe, gg. Jk lol.
     

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