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LA Times Suppressing Obama's Tribute to an Anti-Israel, PLO Operative

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking
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    We knew that the media has stooped to all time lows this election season, doing their best to try to portray Obama as electable. This is a new low -- purposefully choosing to restrict access to a tape that shows Obama's friendship to dangerous anti-Israel figures. Isn't it amazing that we are this close to the election and we still haven't pieced together all the facts about Obama? Heck, Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin's brother-in-law were vetted more than the media has vetted Obama. He has received a free pass -- and kudos to the McCain camp for calling the LA Times out on it.

    McCain camp demands L.A. Times release video

    John McCain's campaign is demanding that the Los Angeles Times release a video of a party for a prominent Palestinian activist that Barack Obama attended in 2003.

    The Times described the going-away party for former University of Chicago professor, and Obama friend, Rashid Khalidi, in a story in April. The story reported that Palestinians thought they might have a friend in Obama because of his friendships in that community, despite the fact that his positions have never been particularly pro-Palestinian.

    "A major news organization is intentionally suppressing information that could provide a clearer link between Barack Obama and Rashid Khalidi," said McCain spokesman Michael Goldfarb, citing Obama's friendship with Khalidi, who is now a professor at Columbia University.

    He said the video could, among other things, show how Obama responded to a poem recited at the party accusing Israel of "terrorism" and warning of consequences for U.S. support for Israel, which Goldfarb described as "hate speech."

    "The election is one week away, and it's unfortunate that the press so obviously favors Barack Obama that this campaign must publicly request that the Los Angeles Times do its job — make information public," he said.

    The campaign hadn't previously demanded the video, though conservative bloggers have, and neither other reporters nor McCain's researchers have been able to dig up a copy.

    Khalidi is a controversial figure, reviled by pro-Israel activists, though not a marginal one. A former professor at the University of Chicago, he's now Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia, and respected by many in academia. He's been criticized most for saying that Palestinians have a right to resist Israeli occupation and has been described as a former P.L.O. spokesman, a label he has denied.

    The paper hasn't explained its unwillingness to release the video, and Peter Wallsten, who found the tape and wrote about it, declined to discuss it with me last night. He forwarded an e-mail that the paper has sent readers who have complained as conservative blogs raise the issue.

    "Over six months ago the Los Angeles Times published a detailed account of the events shown on the videotape. The Times is not suppressing anything. Just the opposite — the L.A. Times brought the matter to light," wrote the readers' representative, Jamie Gold.

    L.A. Times spokeswoman Nancy Sullivan wouldn't discuss the decision not to release the tape in detail.

    "When we reported on the tape six months ago, that was our full report," she said, and asked, "Does Politico release unpublished information?"

    The answer to that question is yes — Politico and most news outlets constantly make available videos and documents, after describing them in part, which is why the Times' decision not to release the video is puzzling. My instinct, and many reporters', is to share as much source material as possible.

    Critics have suggested that the Times is witholding the video for political reasons, but there are other possibilities: competitive reasons, or simply out of tradition. In the mechanics of reporting, there's another possibility as well. The video may have been given to the paper on the condition it not be released, or releasing it could compromise its source.

    But the Times hasn't explained the move, and the McCain campaign is turning up the heat on a story that, whether or not the tape is released, is a reminder that some of Obama's Hyde Park friends stand well to the left of his stated positions.
     
  2. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    pfft..

    is this your october surprise or your special project?
     
  3. Franchise2001

    Franchise2001 Contributing Member

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    How bout you start talking about why people should vote for McCain instead of against Obama... this crap (and im a jew that strongly dislikes Edward Said) doesn't stick and you won't change many, if any, jewish votes.

    2004: Bush vs. NoBush - Bush wins
    2008: Obama vs NoBama - The inevitable
     
  4. durvasa

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    What is wrong with being friends with a Palestinian colleague who supported "resistance" (which isn't the same thing as terrorism) against Israel's violent and illegal occupation of his people's land? It sounds to me that the guy is simply being a Patriot.

    And you take it for granted he's a PLO operative, even though the story you quoted says he denies it. I think he's probably much more credible than the people making that charge.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

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    Excuse me for not posting the link:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/McCain_camp_demands_LA_Times_video.html?showall

    Folks, this is real. No one should be voting for this craptastic novice. Seriously, he has never had to make an executive decision on anything of substance. If elected, his next crisis that he encounters will be the first in his life. This is not the time to be reading the book entitled, MY FIRST CRISIS.

    Change, for the sake of change, is absurd. First of all, it's an empty slogan. Second of all, it depends on what you are changing TO. It would be tantamount to saying that since I hadn't won the lottery in the past 8 years, and during those eight years, I had been wearing denim jeans, therefore I must change my selection of trousers to a polyesther/lycra blend in order to increase my chances of winning the lottery. It's absurd. Similarly, saying that we should chance our economic policies to socialist policies (higher taxes, redistribution of wealth) in order to stimulate the economy is equally absurd. Wake up people, wake up. The man is a front man for dangerous elements of social and economic policy. He has an angry rage inside of him that will be unleashed (if he's elected) to our great nation's detriment.
     
  6. mc mark

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    TJ, you do realize how wasted your time is on this BBS when it comes to changing the outcome of the election, right?
     
  8. durvasa

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    [rquoter]"Over six months ago the Los Angeles Times published a detailed account of the events shown on the videotape. The Times is not suppressing anything. Just the opposite — the L.A. Times brought the matter to light," wrote the readers' representative, Jamie Gold.[/rquoter]

    The McCain campaign wants the video to be shown, so they can splice it into yet another attack ad (or, equivalently, have Fox News run it). The information, if people care about it, has been written about. But it's more effective to take a video clip and put some misleading narration on top of it than to ask readers to read the source article.

    I'm sorry, but this only makes the McCain camp look worse, in my mind. They've shown, time and time again, that they are only interested in character assassination, not a substantive discussion of ideas.
     
  9. Mulder

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  10. mc mark

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    right!?!?!
     
  11. Lil Pun

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    Exactly!!!
     
  12. ling ling

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    By itself, probably nothing really.

    But... he's another guy in the neighborhood.

    Obama "An acorn does not fall far from the tree"

    Perhaps he and his neighbors are from the same tree.
     
  13. mc mark

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    Oh by the way Jorge.....

    During the 1990s, while he served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI), McCain distributed several grants to the Palestinian research center co-founded by Khalidi, including one worth half a million dollars.

    A 1998 tax filing for the McCain-led group shows a $448,873 grant to Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research and Studies for work in the West Bank. (See grant number 5180, "West Bank: CPRS" on page 14 of this PDF.)

    The relationship extends back as far as 1993, when John McCain joined IRI as chairman in January. Foreign Affairs noted in September of that year that IRI had helped fund several extensive studies in Palestine run by Khalidi's group, including over 30 public opinion polls and a study of "sociopolitical attitudes."

    Of course, there's seemingly nothing objectionable with McCain's organization helping a Palestinian group conduct research in the West Bank or Gaza. But it does suggest that McCain could have some of his own explaining to do as he tries to make hay out of Khalidi's ties to Obama.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/mccain-funded-work-of-pal_n_138606.html
     
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  15. El_Conquistador

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    The difference, mcmark, is that McCain actually has something that's called a proven track record of supporting Israel. Obama has no track record and a history of breaking his word. His MANY associations with anti-Israel figures, including his deep friendship with Khalidi ought to scare the pants of any Jewish voter that thinks long and hard about it.

    You just don't know what you are getting with Obama.

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  16. KingCheetah

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    Another racist post from one of the fringe right wingers.
     
  17. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Yes, please tell us about "angry rage."

    Also, may I say...
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    Now that I'm sufficiently scared, in honor of Halloween, I would like to list my top 10 scariest horror movies of all time:

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  19. mc mark

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    Really?

    Because we know 75% of Jews plan to vote for Obama so I'm not real clear on what your point is.
     
  20. ling ling

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    Release the video and let's see what's the percenatage would be.
     

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