LA Times Poll Majority in US Not Convinced Iraq War Necessary

Saddam Hussein was in South Park with Skeet Ulrich.
Skeet Ulrich was in Chill Factor with Cuba Gooding Jr.
Cuba Gooding Jr. was in Jerry Maguire with Tom Cruise.
Tom Cruise was in A Few Good Men with Kevin Bacon.

Too easy.

 

I'm impressed.

 

Love will make children...
War will save your children...

 

I'll go ahead and spell it all out for you glynch. Believing that people should keep more of what they earn, that government doesn't have to be all things to all people, that there are things that are absolutely right and absolutely wrong, that sometimes war is necessary to protect the people...nothing to be ashamed of there.

Here's the deal. Why conservatives get so enraged isn't your message...it's your tone. You may not have the bravado of Trader_Jorge...but the smugness is the same.

Congrats.

 

Who is denying being a conservative? No Worries is the one saying you, glynch, are not a liberal. Some of us conservatives just find that funny in light of your posts.

 

That would not be factual. The pending Iraqi war is all about the oil. You would have to be naive to truly believe otherwise (or you have to be peddling distractions since the war for the oil is not an attractive selling point.)

If you disagree with about the purpose of the war, let's talk North Korea and we can proceed from there.

 

Huh? Don't your understand that we're all sitting in our neat little buckets, aspiring to...some day....after enlightenment...break free and be glynch?

 

It wasn't in 1990...and it still isn't. If we were going to have a war all about oil, we'd be invading Saudi Arabia and Canada.

 

Then you should grasp that hard core liberals are very concerned about human rights. Liberals want both the US not to go to war with Iraq and to drop the embargo.

The anti-war arguments that I seeing here in this thread concern the lack of justification for a war, and not the human rights of the Iraqi people. Ref has brought up human right, but only as a devil's advocate.

Being a mdoerate, my concern wrt to an unjustified war is for the American soldiers who will lose their lifes on the streets of Bagdad and for the US citizens who will suffer from terrorist attacks brought on from the current generation of Iraqis who have endured a war, an embargo, a no-fly zone and operation Desert Fox.

I am also concerned that Bush's lack of diplomacy with our NATO allies. I am sure the damage will not be long term but it was so uncalled for.

 

Only in the little world of your mind ...

We liberated Kuwait for US business interests. It is just the way it is.

Using your broken logic, the US should also be interested in the other wars on the African continent.

 

Yes, my post was rude. I admit it. While I have your attention...

Arrogance is when one doesn't listen at all to others. E.g., you are so anti-war, that you cannot accept the possibility that it may just be the right course of action. Under what circumstances would you say that war with Iraq is warranted? Any?

You also continually try to place other into neat conceptual buckets. Why is that necessary? You don't understand why people view that as arrogance? Your abilities are so superior that you can easily 'bucket' each of us?

Although TJ and you appear pretty darn close to political stereotypes, I still won't presume to assign stereotypical opinions to you, and instead wait for you to present your opinion.


All that said, I put you on ignore twice before after you put words in my mouth, and took you off both times later because your viewpoint in these discussions is too important to ignore. Some of the things you do are just downright wrong and infuriating, but your opinions serve an important role for all here, IMHO.

 

You mean like Somalia? We HAVE been interested in other wars...but we aren't getting involved in Africa anymore because our efforts were ineffective, coupled with a high risk.

We have a hostory of liberating people...
1) France
2) Jews in Europe
3) Tried in Korea
4) Tried in Vietnam
5) Kuwait

Wake up and smell the reality.

 

Conservatives appear to think in more of black and white terms. They think that they are 100% right and any others who disagree are just sadly mistaken. And it really makes them mad when the facts don't agree with can-not-be-wrong opinion, especially when you rub their noses in it

Case in point, Refman runs the risks of being the only American who believes that Operation Desest Storm et al were not about the oil. He appears to genuinely believe that the US is better than that. He is wrong, but it is a good thought.

 

We made ton of cash by bombing Serbia, eh? By trying to feed Somalia?

Many of our leaders may have pushed for the War largely for financial reasons, but they could not have waged the war w/o decent support of the public.

The public was more concerned about the humanitarian aspects of the War, as were all (I'm sure) of the Democrats in Congress who voted for the War, the UN, and the peoples from the many other allied nations. I guess the only ones in it purely for the $$$ were the Republicans.

 

Point one...I'm FAR from being the only one.
Point two...if it was all about the oil, why did the entire UN go along with it?

 

OMG! Outed! glynch registered twice!!

 

Somebody call Robert Stack...I think No Worries is an elaborate hoax.

I think glynch may be T_J's evil twin.