cxbby- I think there are a few teams lowry could start on. Charlotte,clippers (baron limping), and maybe a couple of more. The problem is,well not really a problem is if gm's had a choice, is he better than a guy like George hill? What about session who was beasting as a rookie? Idk, i like his game and he's on a tear now,but what is his upside?
What upside are you talking about? Lowry has a higher ceiling than AB if he continue to shoot well. AB will never have Lowry' court vision, strength, defense, rebounding, hustle plays etc.That's about 4/5 of the basketball game. AB's upside is a poor man's Marbury in his prime, Lowry's upside is a poor man's Kidd in his prime.
Indiana, Miami, Toronto, Charlotte, Detoit, Atlanta, Cleveland, LA Lakers, Memphis, LA Clippers, Minnesota, Sacromento,... Houston(IMHO). That's nearly half the league. My point being, not too long ago you thought all he could ever be was a backup PG because that is all he has ever been. I think it is time to reassess that, no? If you can be the starting PG on half the teams in the league, you are a starting caliber PG. Yes and yes. IMO. Why does he have to be "on a tear" now? Is it impossible that he has simply improved, and this is just his game? I don't know what his upside is. He is 24 years old. You tell me what his upside is? Not too long ago I was told he had none. I'm not sure why that is the case for him when other players even older are seen as having room to grow. PGs and Cs take the longest to develop. Steve Nash didn't average 10 assists when he was 24. As a matter of fact Steve Nash didn't average 7 or 8 assists at 24 like Lowry is doing now. I'm not saying his ceiling is a back to back MVP. But it is equally ridiculous to say that his ceiling is a career backup with no upside. Agree?
I'm saying AB will have a lot more playing time if he starts. Therefore, he will be in the flow of the game a lot more and more likely to make those big shots in the fourth quarter. I would want him to take those shots more than anyone else on the team don't you agree?
In regards to getting in the flow of the game in the 4th quarter, minutes played in the 3rd quarter would be more relevant than minutes played in the 1st quarter.
Starting and trading are two different things though. Just because AB doesn't start, does NOT mean we have to trade him. The only way the Rockets will trade him, is if we get a starter or AB becomes a whining little girl about playing backup. I do feel Lowry should start, because I prefer Martin over Brooks in the starting lineup and the two of them CANNOT be together.
Cxbby, you have to take into account the players on those teams. Indy traded for collison who produced big time last year with paul out and tj is ooverpaid,but does the same things lowry does.Lowry doesnt upgrade that .Why or how would you play lowry with Tyreke? Ditto for him in miami. Not gonna replace brown with lowry in la. The clipps make sense because of davis injury and motivation issues,not because he's a better player. Minny? Maybe,but they do have flynn and play a version of the triangle. You asked why do i say hes on a tear? The same reason Rafer was on a tear when jvg was calling him a top pg. When a 40% fg and 22% 3pt shooter is hitting 44 and 46% in the last 15 games, that sounds like a hot streak. I've said this before, lowry isnt a bad shooter, just a indecisive one. When he just shoots without thought, he's ok. Just my personal opinion, I dont think lowry will ever be a consistent,contested type of shooter. I'm not saying he cant start because he's not,but your team better have players like that if he's ur starting pg.
Did you just relate Brooks to a superstar? Which team do you think will trade us their superstar for Brooks?
Lowry is a better player than Collison. Lowry is a better player than anybody next to Tyreke. Lowry is better than anybody next to the big 3 in Miami, in fact he would be straight up scary in Miami. Think Rondo 2.0 with the big 3. Lowry is better than Flynn. In the NBA "fit" matters a little, but at the end of the day, you get the best players and make it work. Lee, come on, be reasonable. This is why someone would call you a "hater". Rafer was like 34 years old when he went on that hot streak. When you have shot a certain % for 10 years and all of a sudden shoot 20% above it then sure I get your point. Lowry is 24 years old in what really is his 4th season in the league. Do you think Derrick Rose is on a "hot streak". Westbrook is averaging 7 more points on much higher FG%. Why is he "coming into his own" but not Lowry? Don't be stubborn. The answer is right in front of you. And as Rocket fans, we should be celebrating it.
Lowry is a career 28.2% 3pt shooter and improved to 38.5% this season. Will he maintain 38.5%, probably not. Brooks improved from a 33% 3pt to a 39.8% 3pt shooter from 2007 to 2009. He was able to maintain 39.8% for the whole season, when he used to be only a 33% shooter. I can certainly see Lowry making a similiar improvement and getting to 34-35% 3pt shooter, this season.
His season average would have been higher had he not taken some horrible shots early in the season. Those few games freshly out of injury was just not like him. If he can maintain a 35% average, he will be a top 10 starting PG.
Cx- I dont want to really get into this,but let me get something straight. So in lowry's last 15games, he's been 13-8 44 and 46 and last yr as a rookie, collison was 18-9 48% and 42 and yet you say lowry is better? Ok,lol.
AB is a great scorer. Explosive on offense but their is a huge problem and that problem is that AB is not a point guard at all. AB is a horrible passer and defender. AB makes everybody around him less effective. Lowry makes everybody around him better its that simple. AB is a poor mans AI. AB can only truly be effective at the 2
I think he can. Over the last 15 or so games, he is shooting above 45%. That may be a strong outlier but 35-40% seems very possible on the long run. He is quite young, he will definitely improve his shooting. As we can see, it is very possible for him to be a sharpshooter.
Lowry is certainly better. Collison gets benched for TJ Ford and AJ Price in the 4th quarter, and averages what, 3-4 assists a game? Did Kevin Martin not say that he is the best practice shooter on the entire team?
