making a judgment and stating a fact are two entirly different things. Legitimate writers don't resort to name calling ...they let their readers draw their own conclusions. As such, I dismissed the article even before realizing it was Coulter.
Of course but that's not what I did. Of course, this is just a hypothetical but in the hypothetical it is a fact that Manson loves cherry pie. The fact that he loves cherry pie does not ruin my enjoyment of cherry pie or besmirch anyone else who loves cherry pie. That's very narrow-minded of you... and is probably not even true. I've never heard of the Prissy Writer's Bureau.
Manson loving cherry pie does not make it fact that cherry pie is good ...it's an opinion. It's about probabilites and credibility. A less credible source still may make a factual statement but it's less likely. As such, I'm not going to waste my time on the outside chance that a non-credible person will have a 100% flawless article particularly if they start it out by name calling. It's narrow minded of me to to ignore a writer who calls the subject of said article a stooge? Serious writers don't result to name calling therefore why do I need to take the writer serious?
You can find mixed up origins for almost any holiday -- If African American families (or any families for that manner) want to take time to reflect on and honor their heritage I don't see any problem with that. What "credibility" do any holidays have? They are a pre-determined date to remind us to honor/celebrate something.
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It is but that's not what the comment was about. My comment was about not liking cherry pies because you don't like someone that does like them. It was about getting past your own prejudice. "Less" credible sources make factual statements all the time and "very" credible sources make outrageous comments all the time. Your assertion strikes me as not being necessarily true, but I don't want to take the time to go find out which writers name-call and which don't. I'll be on the lookout though.
Agreed. But from MY perspective, I stopped reading the article when she called the guy a stooge. I stopped taking it serious. I didn't realize until lower in the thread that the article was even from Coulter. Just telling you the facts. There are exceptions to EVERY rule and I'm sure you can find one. But by in large, serious writers don't resort to name calling.
Now you're just trolling to make yourself look smart. Trust me when I say it's not working, you look like a fool. And the sky is blue.
Honestly Who gives a sh*t what an African says about an African American holiday? [just for the record. . in case people don't know. . we are distinctly different. Think Scots, Irish and English . . different but similar ] wasn't meant for them . . or about them Basically .. I could state everything he beleives in and celebrates is just some ole african bullsh*t Cause it doesn't relate to me at all I don't celebrate Kwanzaa but I do celebrate the principles I thought about doing it this past year but I think this coming year I will look into it more use it as a basis of creating my own Family Traditions I find any attack on the found hilarious in comparison to the vigorous defense of the Found of Planned Parenthood Rocket River
Look RR, I respect your desires to celebrate whatever you want, but the opinion of an African (granted, an African that left Nigeria, went to Yale, majored in stats, works at a major investment bank and married a Russian Jew, but hey...stereotypes are made to be broken, right) does matter, since Kwanzaa was established as a means to help African Americans reconnect with what Karenga characterized as their African cultural and historical heritage by uniting in meditation and study around principles that have their putative origins in what Karenga asserts are "African traditions" and "common humanist principles." The common humanist principles are great....in fact the foundation of Kwanzaa celebrates creativity, unity, respect, etc which are things any human being should celebrate. Xmas has become way too commercial anyway imho (and I am by no means religious despite my Catholic upbringing) and its great that there is a positive message being spread. However, the issue that Ufemi has with Kwanzaa is that its not African and he thinks black americans are being duped in that regard. He also has huge issues with the African American terminology....but thats a different post. Anyway, I just wish they would close the markets on Kwanzaa so I could have a day to chill with my family. Hannukah, too. I could use the sleep.
The opinion of what an African thinks about an African-American holiday is no more valid than anybody else's opinion. The FINAL vote should go to those that celebrate the holiday. If you don't celebrate the holiday yourself, then your opinion means nothing because it doesn't affect the outcome.
It's a New Year and you still show up just to hurl your pansy-ass insults?! What about those New Year's Resolutions of yours?
Hold on, was this thread moved to the D&D or started here? I mean, the first post makes it seem like this thread was about curiosity over something most people don't know much about. Why would a thread like that need to be started in the D&D?
is it possible to have: credibility = 1 or 24 or does it have to be: credibility = zero credibility = 100% i'd like to think she has some credibility, albeit mostly skewed.
My only knowledge of Kwanzaa came from this: Tim Meadows: Santa Claus has come and gone, but don't be sad and blue 'Cause Kwanzaa Timmy's comin', and soon you'll be comin', too Tell that fat old bearded dude he's livin' in the past, he Only knows who's bad or good, but I know who's been nasty Kwanzettes: Hey, Kwanzaa Timmy, what you gonna give me? Tim: I've brought you lots of gifts, girl Kwanzettes: Come on, Kwanzaa Timmy, what you gonna give me? Tim: I promise to rock your world! My gifts to you symbolize our African unity A mkeka mat, some corn, some wine, and a booty full of me! Kwanzaa was founded by Dr. Maulan [actually Maulana] Karenga And like the spirit of the holiday, I plan to get up all in ya! Kwanzettes: Hey, Kwanzaa Timmy, what you gonna give me? Tim: Don't you understand what Kwanzaa's about? Kwanzettes: Hey, Kwanzaa Timmy, what you gonna give me? Tim: Look at my eyes, and listen to my mouth [stops singing] Umoja, Kujichaguila, Ujima are the first three Kwanzaa dates It's also the sound of the bedsprings while sweet, sweet love we make The last four days of Kwamaa are Ujamaa, Nia, Kuumba, and Imani [resumes singing] The next day, tell all your friends about my sexy Kwanzaa party! Kwanzettes: There's no booty-knocking, 'less you fill our stocking Tim: Kwanzaa's about giving, not getting Kwanzettes: If you wanna sex us, better bring your Lexus Tim: I've got corn, I've got bushels of corn! Kwanzettes: Think I know you, Mister; you knocked up my sister Tim: [stops singing] Come on, now listen. Kwan-- This is Kwanzaa, not Black History Month. You know? Don't be enslaved by the past, baby! Break those chains, you know? Listen, uh, why don't we just, uh, take my mkeka mat, some wine, some corn, your 20 dollars and uh, go back to my place and get an early start on this Kwanzaa celebration, how about it? Kwanzette #1: All right. Tim: All right! Colin, you in? Colin: [greatly enthused] Yes! Tim and the Kwanzettes: [resume singing] Have a happy, sexy Kwanzaa! [end of song; cheers and applause as they hold the last word] Colin: Kwanzaa Timmy, everybody! Tim: Kwanzettes! The Kwanzettes! [lights come back up] Colin: I'm Colin Quinn! That's my story, and I'm sticking to it! Good night.
