Kuwait Airways 'within its rights' to ban Israeli - German court

Israel status by the UN is : an apartheid state that’s committing inhumane acts, systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over another, ...among a long list of violations:..massive restriction of access to land,sea or air for the Palestinians .

Apparently at any decent court of law , they will loose their pathetic claim of discrimination by other sovereign States. If your house ( especially when it’s stolen) is made out of glass ,don’t throw stones at others ...should be a common sense.

 

i don't quite follow how banning israelis equates to anti-semitism. non-israeli jews are not banned. and non-jewish israelis are banned

 

Just like I don't quite understand how restricting travel from countries that sponsor terrorism is anti muslim.... those countries have other religions and people in them (that they are oppressing) too.

 

It's the same logic that says Trump's travel ban on residents from several Muslim-majority countries is a racist ban against Muslims, isn't it?

 

i guess so. again i don't see how that can be anti-islam when citizens from countries with the largest muslim populations like indonesia/pakistan/nigeria are not being banned. i think it also banned north koreans and some venezuelans

 

It comes down to what we believe the underlying motivation to be. Many people presume Trump has an anti-Muslim bias, based on his extensive history ("I think Islam hates us"). So, naturally, they say that has influenced his decision to ban people from countries which would disproportionately affect Muslim immigrants. People who are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt are unwilling to make that link and insist it is purely a security measure.

Same deal here. There is extensive anti-Jew history in these Gulf State countries, and many people believe that underlies the hostility against Israel. People who are willing to give these states the benefit of the doubt insist it is purely a political measure in response to Israel's aggression against Palestinians and neighboring states.

 

but in both cases, you can theoretically have hundreds of millions of muslims enter from dozens of other countries with sizeable muslim populations and you can have tens of millions of jews enter from america alone, which actually has the largest jewish population. so i just don't see the logic behind labeling either as religious discrimination. but what do i know

 

They do not ban Israelis - they simply do not recognize them or their state. It is very much a political statement against Jews because the reason behind not recognizing Israel has entirely to do with Israel being a Jewish state.

 

You can believe Israel was a very half assed attempt to carve out a piece of land for them in a very unpragamtic way. Carve out a piece of land for them where all surrounding border nations hate you?

Seems like a great idea.

It was always unpragamtic and based in a 2000+ year old fairy tale. You can believe the whole situation of Israel is a non sustainable unpragamtic situation. It doesn't mean you are an anti-semite.

The United States has plenty of room for every Israeli citizens to move here. It would be a win win for everyone. The US received an influx of high skilled labor and the Israelis have the piece of mind of not living in a region where everyone hates them. It's the most pragmatic solution.

Let the Palestinians have that small sliver of land.

 

I don't think there's an Israeli who hates Gulf States more than #Mathloom and he's not alone with this mindset, and I don't see Israel flag burned by Gulf States,

not recognizing Israel is based on high moral grounds, similar to how " Boycott Israel" is gaining steam in the West

 

Not all group of Christian, Muslim and Jews are the same. Religion is regional, as is culture, government, language, and so on. Banning all people from a "Jewish" state is mainly a religious discrimination in that manner.

 

The Arab coalition which invaded Israel to protect the so-called "Palestinian" people has not reprised itself to defend the Yazidis from ISIS...or the Kurds, or the Druze, or anyone being attacked by ISIS.

I think we both know why that is.

 

Yes, Arabs culture hate Jews. This isn't a new concept. It's been known for a while.

Hence why the only pragmatic solution is for Israelis to move to a first world highly developed nation that welcomes them.

 

Israel is where it is, not much can be done now, thanks to the British again(90% of the world conflict today are caused by these people). Pretty much anywhere else they put Israel, it would have been much better.

 

Put aside the discussion on Israel and relations with other countries in the region.

As an airline, you will be forced to deport any passenger that you bring to a country that doesn't have a legal right to enter on the airline's dime and on top of that the airline is fined by the country.

Kuwait doesn't allow Israelis to enter and the Kuwaiti government is rigidly enforcing that including banning Israelis from transiting through KWI. Kuwait Airways is legally obligated to enforce that. IATA governing resolutions and national laws mandate this. They're not in the wrong here and the German court was correct in its decisions. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of the Kuwaiti policy. This is a pretty straightforward case.

 

The British brought a wealth of technolo to that area - as with many other areas.

The wealth and increase in living standards is what created this conflict. See Egypt and Al-Bana for a different example.

 

You're giving the British way too much credit. The British were in the region for a relatively small amount of time and the borders that the British and other Europeans created in the Middle East are playing huge roles in disputes in the region today.

Israel's economy, on the other hand, was entirely self produced. Israel benefited from one of the wealthiest and most educated immigration waves that the world has ever seen. That's changed in recent years (Israel's immigration pool today is very different) but the basis of the economy is largely from a period of sustained immigration of some of the best and brightest from across the world.