I never called myself a “winner”, just said I had a winner mentality. Much different. You and others who continue to accept losing year after year without consequence, bother, or fight would fit more in the catagory of loser mentality (not at all loser…but just loser mentality). Nothing wrong with that, as each person is going to have one or the other and all that means is that you are more accepting of losing than I am. You are more patient with losing then I am. For some reason losing 60+ games a year bothers me more than you and many others. In a way, I am envious and wish I could enjoy the thought of watching another 60+ losses next season, but for some reason (aka, winning mentality) I can’t.
Since we’re still tanking for next season doesn’t seem like Rockets are taking any risks here lol Now, if we let him coach the final year of his contract in the 23/24, that will say something about the FO… but still not much, it would be the bare minimum of giving him one season with a team that ranked hard for 3 years under him. I feel like he will finish his contract. I think the only way a coach is his position doesn’t finish the contract is if that disastrous player relations with key players, and that’s not Silas.
Aw, yes. You apparently define yourself through the successes of the teams for which you root. Man, your mentality exudes so much winning I can smell it from here.
I see both points of view. On one hand, it was pretty frustrating and borderline unforgivable to continue to run out a selfish ******* like Christian Wood while blocking guys like Garuba and even Sengun in that process. Playing Gordon and even Schroder was more acceptable to me since they actually play the game the right way, and the young guards can learn a thing or two from them in regards to playing winning basketball. I understand WHY Silas was playing the vets, but I don't understand why the organization didn't pull him aside and tell him to limit their minutes significantly. On the other hand, Silas IS a nice guy, and a good man. Giving him more ear-time with kids like Jalen and KPJ is not a bad thing necessarily, and there's a lot more that goes into winning than just X's and O's. The right mentality plays a big part, and I'd like to think Silas plays a positive role in these kids' lives. I'm fine giving him another shot this upcoming season, but the hook has to be very quick if it's clear there's been no improvement in terms of player development.
You make some good points here! I actually met and spent some time with Frank Vogel and let me tell you he is one of the nicest people out there. Feel bad for him as he was recently let go from the Lakers. With guys like him being let go, you have to wonder what it would actually take to let Silas go. Young players will improve with Lucas no matter who coaches the team. Bad game planning and things like turnovers and awful free throw percentages from almost every player on the team and massive long losing streaks even against some undermanned less talented teams at home….indicate that at least a conversation should be had (about being on the hot seat) for our coach averaging 64 losses a year in his head coaching career.
Which would you prefer: A three year stretch of bad records followed by a decade of really good teams Or ... The 14th pick in the draft every year for the next 5 and a .500 record with no playoff series wins.
I shall give kudos to Rockets Org if next year they invite [Severo y Grupo Fuego] to perform at halftime show. Nuggets scouting department knows what's up.
I think u give him one more year to demonstrate progress that doesn’t just stop at development, but actually starts to translate into more wins. This is the year where “tanking” stops and we pivot to looking like a competent team. Yes we have our 2023 draft pick to fall back on if we are still terrible, but as far as Silas goes and being a respectable destination for 2023 free agents, we have to look like we are turning the corner next season. If that doesn’t happen I think you’ve got to move on from Silas. But he deserves next season. Hopefully Stone makes some moves to better balance the roster and fill some big holes so that Silas has a real chance. Then it will be clearer to see and an easier decision to stick with him or move on. We need to keep our 2023 pick at almost all costs though. That’s our bail money if we have another bad season. I don’t mind trading this yr’s Brooklyn pick, next yr’s Milwaukee pick, even one of the later year Brooklyn picks, but keep our 2023 pick or lotto protect it if trading it.
You just can't compare vogels situation with Silas situation. It's OBVIOUS we aren't good and won't be. He will naturally have a longer leash with losses. Meanwhile, Vogel is obviously the better coach but he was in a position to WIN. Yeah the roster sucks ass but someone had to be blamed and the GM will throw coach under the bus 10/10 to save his own ass. Also, since we are on the topic. Silas gets paid pennies comparatively to the league head coaches. Ferntits is gonna ride those savings while he can since we aren't competitive yet.
I don't mind keeping Silas around but after next year, assuming the Rockets like their core and "flip the switch" to start actually trying to win, he's gotta show he can keep up and improve.
I can't stand the losing either. Sports are the way many of us fulfill our tribal instinct, so when we lose it hurts our pride. I remember this old commercial and while it's exaggeration, I can remember the time when the outcome of a Rockets game would make or break my next day.
I don’t get how some posters don’t understand these things: 1. Silas will be here through his contract simply because Tilman will not pay two head coaches (1 to sit at home) 2. The mediocrity treadmill of picking 14th is far worse than tanking to get top tier talent in the draft to increase our ceiling for future title contention the combination of these two things keeps Silas a non factor anyhow as a placeholder coach. What we truly need is the front office to step in and do the process a solid by immediately trading guys like Wood and Gordon so we aren’t hindering growth from the youngsters. Hopefully, we see that this off-season.
Silas did a great job with the young talent this year. Evaluating him based off record alone is unfair, and extreme "casual" behavior. 1. Green - Massive improvement over the course of the season 2. KPJ - Massive off court/on court development by the end of the season 3. Steadily ramped up Sengun, Christopher, KJ, and Garuba's minutes, all showing promise. 4. Front office appears to have done very well drafting 5. All of this progress while still getting a top 5 lotto pick Don't start a bunch of threads if you are a casual.
this reminds me of nasrudin anecdote when he was asked why he was wearing the funny hat, he responded, "to scare away the tigers", to which people exclaimed "but there's no any tigers here", 'see i told you, it's working!' nasrudin concluded confidently....
Honestly would love a repeat of this year, next year, so would have no problem with Silas returning. All the young guys developing nicely and a guaranteed top five pick while all the leftover pieces from the Harden era roll off.
There is a lot to criticize Silas for, fairly or not, but losing games is definitely not one of those. Doing so is NOT a winner's mentality, but rather the mentality of a short-sighted fool. Given OP's history of really dumb threads and garbage takes though, can't say I am even the slightest bit surprised.
this is not true...you lost credibility, i am not even gonna look into other points which i am sure I could tear apart alpi played a 28 minutes game in the october then then he was back to 5 minutes then 20 minutes then 12 minutes...none of this has had to do anything with his production, fouling or stamina... the only steady thing going is silas punishing him for playing well, taking him out of rhythm by playing him 5 minutes a night or 12 minutes in 4 spurts of 3 minutes and not putting him in position to succeed, making it harder for him to adjust to playing foul free defense and to get used to rigor of nba refs...insisting he chucks from 3 instead of setting him up with easy postup baskets to raise his confidence and thus make his nba adjustment easier.... it was the classic fox and stork story ( i am sure your parents never read it to you before bed time otherwise youd never fall for silas fraud) you mentioned promise....but promise is so vague my friend...its juts a word whhc means nothing....promise is not championship and all of them could be out of league in few years... in fact all drafted rookies showed promise even before entering nba....if anything silas hold them back, didnt give them any system, structure or rewarded them for good play, didnt make it easier for them, and spoonfed them minutes instead of playing full nba games... alpi only played like perhaps 10-15 real games( this alone is a fireable offense) 5 minutes or 12 minutes a night dont count....its a huge amount of PT wasted on danuel house and danual thesis and the likes for which we didnt recoup not even a 2nd rounder lololololol IT WAS AN EPIC FAIL.... but hey they will get to play more when its their time to be traded also silas clearly held alpi back in order to enable jalen to get into roy race which he failed to do silas robbed alpi blind of ROY TAKE THAT FOR DATA
