I don't keep Signatures turned on, first off. But, this is the most suggestive post I have read, on this board, in a long time. I know I have a dirty mind, have had for a long tome. But, this is taking it to a new level. Has this become a dating site?
60 games, 941/1628 (57.8%), 10,624 yards, 48 TDs, 53 INTs, 73.7 rating 58 games, 986/1802 (54.7%0, 10,242 yards, 60 TDs, 62 INTs, 68.1 rating Carr vs Harrington. One guy got cut. The other got an extension.
i think carr is better than harrington. but not tons better. at least not what i've seen from them both so far.
I was trying to make this point a couple weeks back. It's funny how the thought of replacing Carr is absolutely out of the question to some people when almost everyone is bashing Harrington. If the 5-11 Lions are seriously considering replacing Harrington, I don't see why it's such a bad thing for the 2-14 Texans to do the same.
One guy played for an expansion team, the other played for an established team. That right there makes the comparison worthless.
Because the guy on the 5-11 team had much better talent around him then the guy on the 2-14 team. Much better Oline, better overall WR corp, and a better RB. He still struggled.
Why is it so difficult for some of you to accept that Carr was not given the right supporting cast to succeed? We could all agree that the coaching was very conservative and the OL was horrible. The fact that Carr was pressured so much crippled our passing statistics. Many of you are blaiming Carr, because he's the QB and an easy target. If you think that VY (or any QB, for that matter) could have come in under the same conditions and succeeded, you are delusioned. Given the short history of this team, replacing the coaching staff was the best thing that could have happened. Put your faith in our new staff and support them. If they see something in Carr that doesn't warrant his dismissal and believe in him; that's great news. I really hope that Carr succeeds, so we can put this to rest.
The talent factor is highly debatable. The Lions have NO talent. Any Lions fan would tell you that their offensive line was flat out horrible. As for the group of receivers, who do they have? Rogers? The guy was made of glass and he'll likely be cut. Roy Williams? Solid but seemed to be often nicked up with some injury that kept him on the sidelines. Mike Williams? Many are starting to label him a bust at WR, as he struggled to get separation at the NFL level. And Kevin Jones. I think you would find that there would be a strong contingent amongst NFL fans on the side of DD as to who's the better back.
And he was 100% healthy for about half the season. He missed 3 games...and was basically unable to do anything for another 5 games.
Depends on what you are talking about...The Lions pass protection is very good. It is their running game that is hurt by their OLine. Look at the Texans...our run blocking is actually very good. It is in the passing game that they struggle.
I disagree with you, their Oline has pass blocked well, they only gave 31 sacks last year. I am sure that Carr wouldn't mind playing behind that "horrible" line. Roy Williams is an excellent receiver his numbers were similar to AJs last season, and although AJ had more yards in 2004 RW scored more TDs. Last year DD had a few more yards, but if you goto 04 KJ had similar yardage with a higher ypc number. They also had Pollard last year who is so far better than any TE we have ever had. Additionally going to an establiashed team is so much easier than an expansion team as most of the guys have played together for a while and know the system already. Contrast that to coming to a team full of cast offs from other teams that have never played together before. BTW, if they don't want M.Williams I would happily take him on our team as he is much better than Bradford or Gaffney.
Det was 2-14 the year before JH got there. The year after JH's team won 3 games and Carr's team 4 games. In fact Carr's team has been better or equal to JH's team every year except until last year, 5 years after expansion. The expansion argument is void because the Texans are worse than when they started. Anyone arguing the Texans coaching staff (Capers and co) has a worse reputation than Detriot's staff over that period is crazy. I would say the major difference between the players is health. But yeah I'd take my chances with Carr over JH despite their comparable performance by most any standards.
I did this exact thing for the past 4 seasons. I'm not going to sit through another 4 blaming everyone else except Carr. Yes, we can blame the OL, the WR, the running game, etc...but the truth is that Carr should be blamed just as much as everything else. All I want is for this franchise to win. I've said this quite a few times: Carr has had an absolute free ride since he's been here, and under the circumstances, he has deserved it for the most part, but I won't sit here and try to convince myself that Carr wasn't part of the problem.
Dude, honestly Unitas, Starr, Namath, Staubach, Bradshaw, Montana, Elway, Favre, Brady....none of them could have won with these guys.
So, wouldn't teams try to stop the run on us, allowing us to open up our passing game. OUr OL sucks.....oh, but they can run block. If we've already got a running game, why do we need Bush? The wide receiver thing is debatable? How many games has Rogers played? Isn't he in rehab right now? Roy? I think he's talented, but he's been hurt as well. Mike Williams was a rookie last year and it looks like his lack of speed may hurt him after all. The Lions are so good at WR that they picked up Corey Bradford? And I don't even know who the running back was before Kevin Jones. I'd agree with that. I just think ti's funny how one guy is cut and the other got an extension. Have the Lions gone to the playoffs since Sanders left? Heck, I think they stunk with Sanders.
the worst that could happen: 5 years from now VY is playing in the Super Bowl for the Titans in Houston, but the Texans finish the year 2-14 or miss the playoffs......now that would totally suck
Uh...okay, you tackled a number of issues here. For starters, you are assuming that since our OLine can run block then that automatically means our passing game opens. Then, in a sarcastic manner, you say that our OL sucks, but they can run block (Despite the fact that we have the 9th highest yards per rush average in the NFL). Then, assuming we do have a running game, you question why we need Bush. I just got home from St. Pattys day, so I will try to be coherent. First off, run blocking and pass blocking can be mutually exclusive. Dont understand why you cant comprehend how a team can have poor pass blockers, but good run blockers. Not a tough concept. Secondly, just because you can run block does not mean that the passing game will open. For the run blocking to be maximally effective, the RB needs to be a threat to the defense. If not, then the passing game will not open up. Domanick Davis is not a threat since he has no break away speed. He can get his 4 yards and thats it. Defenses arent scared of him. Therefore, we have a running game that is adequate, but not a running game that will necessarily help our passing game. Now, Ive never said that we "need" Bush, but he can help us tremendously. Bush is a player that will help our running game (with his speed) as well as help our passing game (because he threatens the defense moreso than DD). Basically, no matter where Bush lines up on the field whether its in the backfield, at wideout, or in the slot, a defense will absolutely have to account for him. They must make changes to their game plan to minimize the damage that Bush can do to them. With Davis, there are no worries...he wont be taking any ball to the house.
