When I watch David Carr I see a man who is scared to take a hit, a man who sees people coming when there isn't anyone there. I think he might have developed into a good QB, but the pounding has taken it's toll, and all on his pyschy. Carr is scared out there, it is clear as day when you watch how he settles FAR too often for the check down pass. Carr needs some success to get his confidence back......or he needs to be broken and tossed to the garbage heap. I would start next week in the hurry up offense and see what he can do.... DD
I haven't heard one person say that David Carr should be completely blameless. He has his faults as does the entire organization.
I think Kubiak is using this season to evaluate Carr. That's why he doesn't pull him. Hell, it's not like we're going anywhere this year anyway. Doesn't matter who we have at QB. So why not give Carr a full year under Kubiak and then make a decision after the season? I think (hope) that's what Kubiak is doing.
That could work, unless you try to groom someone for next year as well. How many years are left on Carr's contract? Picking up that $8 million option seems a bit silly right now. DD
You are totally misconstruing the argument. No one is saying keep running Carr out there FOREVER. No one is saying Carr is playing great. We are counseling patience. Bringing Sage in is totally wrong, for reasons that are obvious.
Except the rest of the organization is held accountable for their performance. He is not. No matter how bad he plays, no one is even willing to consider making a change.
I don't see that at all. Carr has been much too willing to take a sack instead of throwing it away. His problem has been decision making, not being scared. Are you even watching the games, DD?
Carr is getting worse every game. How long do you propose he keep going out there? How many more games or seasons should get wasted before finally moving on?
man, i sure hope not... roethlisberger was 13-0 as a starter in 2004 averaging 14 completions, 188 yards, 1.2 TDs and 1 INT a game. they went 4-0 in last year's playoffs with him averaging 15 completions, 201 yards, 1.75 TDs and .75 INT a game. extrapolate the overall team success and those are, by any measure, fairly mediocre numbers. and yet, i'm guessing every single texan fan would have traded carr for roethlisberger after each of the last two seasons, right? the point is a QB has to have good-to-great talent around him in order to succeed in today's league. none are currently single-handedly carrying their teams - not even peyton manning, who plays with FIVE former 1st round picks on his offense. how many of the texans' current players do you think could step in and start for the vast majority of NFL teams right now? aj, williams and ryans, definitely; moulds, daniels, weaver, and robinson probably. that's 7 players and only three are on offense. [btw, since you're probably wondering - i think 12-13 teams would trade their current "projected" starter for carr.]
How do you know what Kubiak is considering? They could very well be considering a change. He's been benched once already. Next year they may draft or sign some other QBs.
He's been benched once. The backup QB played better in that half than Carr has at any point this season. And Carr kept his job, has sucked for another month, and has continued to keep the job. According to Ric, he has done so with a bum shoulder and an inability to even throw down the field. No, he hasn't been held accountable. His performances have constantly been excused in every possible way.
You give him to the end of the season and evaluate his performance. If it really is that bad, you open the job up to competition next year and you bring in new guys. I do think we need a full season under Kubiak to properly evaluate him. It would truly suck to have Carr go to another team next year and excel with a good OL becase we didn't have the patience.
That would make sense if he showed any signs of improvement. But the longer he's been in the system, the worse he's gotten. His rating is going down, he's no longer throwing TDs, the offense is scoring less, his already terrible yards-per-attempt just keeps dropping, etc. What exactly are you expecting to see over the next month?
At training camp and in the beginning of the season, Kubiak had Carr throw deep and throw deep often. Obviously something isn't up to par so all is being called are short quick routes. Connecting the dots, it again looks like the line isn't up to par. Injuries eliminating both starting tackles was a HUGE blow. It was embarrassing that on one of the few 5 drops that Carr took all day, he got destroyed.
Well it wouldn't suck because we didn't have the patience. It would suck because we gave him something he never really had--an O-Line.
theres plenty of other ****ty teams that seem to be doing better than us. For instance, the team we just lost to and one in Tennessee.
Scratch that. I meant we DIDN'T give him something he never really had. Sorry, I just got overjoyed when I saw the words "Carr" and "excel" in the same sentence.
perhaps... aren't wins the bottom line, major? i just presented multiple scenarios in two separate games this year in which carr had the team in position to win and other guys failed. we wouldn't all feel considerably better if the team was 5-6? and i'm not ignoring carr's failings. he flat-out cost us the tennessee game. he wasn't sharp yesterday. he's had stretches (mostly in the 3Q) where he's been consistently ineffective (though, the consistency of the team's awful play in the 3Q on both sides of the ball makes me think kubiak's partially to blame for that - he's not making the right adjustments at the half). i don't see how anyone could walk away from the giant and bill games thinking, "man, if we'd only had a better QB..." 5-6 puts an entirely different spin on this season and on david carr.
