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Kubiak and Wade Phillips are 7-0 and Rick Smith is.....

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by deb4rockets5, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. Nick

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    He's been to 3 Super Bowls... and won one.

    If he's a post-season "failure", I wonder what Warren Moon and Jim Kelly are considered to be?
     
  2. J Sizzle

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    Moronic statement, but sure.
     
  3. Houstunna

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    Bigger postseason failures. Your wondering can now cease.

    Also, pretty weak to delete the playoff fail in my post you quoted.


    Since you and Sizzle just have to comment, go argue with the guy who said "Luck is terrible" in the post YALL SAW I responded to.
     
  4. Nick

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    Pretty weak that by your metrics, Eli Manning and Joe Flacco are apparently more desirable than Peyton, Moon, Kelly, Tarkenton, and Elway before Kubiak came in and told him to hand the ball off to Terrell Davis every play.

    Oh yeah, Favre has only one SB win as well... post-season failure.
     
  5. Houstunna

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    If you weren't so eager to argue, my initial post would easily infer that...

    1) Eli and Flacco are better postseason QBs than Peyton
    2) Worse regular season QB'S

    Again, since you wanna argue so badly, go argue how "Luck isn't terrible". Unless, you believe he is.
     
  6. Nick

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    Your entire premise makes absolutely zero sense.... Peyton has been to 3 SB's and won one.... which should be the end-all/be-all of judging a player's ability to perform in the post-season.

    His team is in the playoffs EVERY YEAR... so unless his team is either winning or losing the Super Bowl EVERY YEAR, he's going to have a fair amount of years where his team plays only 1 or 2 playoff games (this is also given since his team is rarely a wild card either).

    Those other QB's aren't good enough to even make the playoffs every year... and had they, there's a good chance they too would not be in the Super Bowl every single post-season.
     
  7. vinsensual

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    But it's this kind of thinking that would invalidate those bleacherreport and espn articles you cite for Rick being a top 16 GM.
     
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    Nick likes to argue over anything.

    When you consider the accomplishments of Manning in the regular season.... You would anticipate more than one SB victory.
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    Two ?
     
  10. Nick

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    There's a lot of room between not winning the majority of his SB appearances (which would be two)... and being a post-season "failure."

    If he's a post-season failure, the majority of QB's in the HOF are as well.
     
  11. Houstunna

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    The topic isn't about Peyton only playing "one or two" playoff games in a season. It's about being the all-time "one-and-done" leader. Most of those times his team was favored and @home. Epic failure. The fact his team is always in the playoffs, many times as a non-wildcard squad, is a huge reason why I credited him being "by far" the greatest regular season QB.

    Face it, Manning is a postseason headcase.

    You're also foolish to think Luck is terrble.
     
  12. Nimo

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    You mean SI.com and NFL.com. Yes I think they know more than you do.

    Again, I am not saying I agree. I just don't think Rick Smith is as much of the problem as we Houston fans think.
     
  13. Nick

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    Yeah, post-season head-cases don't go to 3 Super Bowls and win one. He's not the greatest post-season player of all-time, but like I said before, there's room between what he is and what really is considered a "failure".

    Did I ever say that?
     
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  14. Houstunna

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    Despite Manning's regular season success, very few will have him Top 3 QB All-time.

    If given a hypothetical chance to start any QB to win a postseason game, very few will pick Manning 1st, 2nd, or 5th.

    The year INDY won the SB was his worse playoff run statiscally.. lmao.

    He's a postseason failure and a playoff headcase.

    You didn't not say it when it was presented several times.
     
  15. Nick

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    Ok.... does that mean he's an absolute post-season failure? No. He's Charles Barkley/Karl Malone... but with a championship.

    Now? Of course not... in his prime? That's still very much debatable, especially since he was both getting there and winning it all in his prime.

    They dont comeback and beat New England without him... and he's been statistically good several years his team lost... not helping your point.

    Again, most head-cases can't even have the post-season success he's had.

    Huh? Again, I haven't said a single thing about Andrew Luck in here...
     
  16. HillBoy

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    Well please explain the "refund" Selig and MLB gave Crane. On second thought don't bother. It makes no difference to me any more and is off topic for this forum.
     
  17. HillBoy

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    I always get a big laugh when morons such as yourself publicly expose just how stupid you can be. Because only a complete dumbass would find humor in player's physical injury. Before this post, I thought you had a few parts missing in that department but now I can see that you are a finished product. And for the record I don't give a rats ass about the DH because I never followed nor cared about AL baseball. If I'm off the ALastros bandwagon it's because I was a fan from childhood for 50 - that's 50 years and thanks to Crane and Selig, that team no longer exists.
     
  18. HillBoy

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    Exactly! Whoever is in charge of talent evaluation should be shown the door yesterday. A lot of folks here want to blame Smith but he just executes what the coaches and scouts dictate. The Texans have now gone from a GM with the power like what you want (Casserly) to one who does what does the bidding of the coaches and scouts (Smith). I agree with you that it's way past time for a change - the question is what change?
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Badly coached team.
     
  20. Newlin

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    You've been waiting all season to be able or say that. Today is your day! You people.
     

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