KPjr has more to do with us winning games RIGHT NOW than anyone on the roster

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Everyone want the max.

 

Exactly, these folks are dreaming about a team friendly deal. I’d cut bait before a I give KPJ a long term deal at max dollars. That’s what his agent is going to want.

 

Some think Green/KPJ backcourt will work. Some think we should give up on KPJ and focus on developing Green. Personally I don't think you can learn how to play full time PG after a season. You can be part time PG but not full time PG. He play basketball since he was a kid. If he had the PG skill he would play PG long ago. Would a coach think a player has good PG skill but play him at SG? I think it's time to give up on KPJ as starting PG experience.

 

Rockets do not have good history of loyalty anyway. Players aren't going to take a discount. Players on top of my head that sign friendly deal are Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Nowtizki. Technically all are foreign players. Gen Z or whatever you call the generation now. They don't care.

 

Saw a few reports last night saying GS would offer Jordan Poole 4/$80m. That may be the market for KPJ, how would yall feel about that?

 

Is inflation really that bad? 20M per 6th man?

 

20 million per for KPJ?

HARD PASS.

I wouldn’t go past mid level (what? 4yrs - 36 million)? With the 1st year guaranteed, 2nd year partially guaranteed & 2 years non- guaranteed ( Team Options )

Just a guess…..

 

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Good luck with that. Isn't Green next year contract 9M already? Wouldn't surprise me he wanted 20M per for 4 years. Starting at around 16M in first year. NBA contract is getting insanely high. They do get a lot of money from China.

 

Jordan Poole is a positive contributor to a championship contender at 22. KPJ is a young guy putting up numbers on a bad team. There is no comparison in value. Look at any of the advanced numbers and it's night and day.

Let the market dictate his value. I think a lot of teams will be scared off by the conduct issues on every team he's played for.

 

For reference, a few guard signings in that skill-range or age-group:
Rozier: 3/57
Clarkson: 4/52
Dinwiddie: 3/54
Fultz: 3//50
D.White: 4/70

I think the $15m range is more realistic. KPJ brings more to the table than Poole imo. Again these are just rumors..

 

Depends upon production, if KPJ becomes a 17-8 guy with high efficiency and good defense - you look around the league and you pay him what those players are getting.

Or, you trade him if you are worried about his history etc in a S&T deal.

He is a big, skilled, left handed combo guard, and those are not all that abundant so as long as his head is on straight he will make a lot of money.

DD

 

I'm also pretty sure KPJ's numbers would be more efficient if he had Steph Curry and Klay Thompson next to him.

 

No doubt if the other starters could SHOOT with efficiency, he would have 2-4 more assists per game, Tate and Green are dragging down his assist numbers.

DD

 

It’s interesting because I don’t think KPJ is our point guard, yet there’s no doubt that he’s a talented combo-guard who continues to improve and has big upside. But if you look at our back court, we are committed to Green long term and Josh Christopher, in my opinion, has as much upside as anyone on our team. I also think we’ll be looking to have a real PG play significant minutes to help Green out. That doesn’t leave a lot of space for KPJ. I didn’t mention Mathews but I think he’s one of the best two-way role players in the nba. I didn’t mention Nix but there’s a lot to like there too.

I’m not sure making a 3yr-$60 mil commitment to KPJ makes much sense since he’s a bad fit next to Green.

 

I'm glad Morey and D'Antoni did feel the way you do.

Otherwise Harden never leads NBA in assists.

 

Sure, on lower volume. But I doubt the Warriors would even play him over their other guys. There are only so many backup PG/SG minutes to go around. And isn't it true that KPJ's job as a PG is to make it easier for his teammates to score?

There's always going to be guys who put up stats on bad teams. Someone has to score. Someone will get assists. Someone will grab boards. What you don't know is whether the guys who are putting up those empty numbers can translate that to helping a good team win.

 

HIs behavior is an huge factor, to ignore it would be silly. The Rockets better build moral clauses into the contract to let them out of any extension.

 

Well, I guess we need to let those young bucks mature - Green, KPJ, Christopher and not hold them accountable for what they did as kids.....or else we might miss out on Iverson......like talent.

DD