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KPjr has more to do with us winning games RIGHT NOW than anyone on the roster

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Jan 6, 2022.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    He hasn't earned the max yet, so if he wants that new deal this off-season it'll be significantly lower than the max, if he comes back next year and has an all star caliber season, he'd get a lot more after that.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Mobley is on us.

    KPJ can play, he is young, still time to mature, our team sucks so we can afford to be patient.

    DD
     
  3. burlesk

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    He was doing that last year pretty well, so here's hoping he's getting comfortable enough with his role to do it again.
     
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    I have no idea what point you are trying to make here. I have no idea how you can take a simple "I shut off social media to help my focus" into something so negative. If anything it's a huge positive.
     
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    The point is we've heard all of this babble before and eventually he falls back into the same immature, knucklehead behavior. For him, It's been years of this now.
     
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    What's wrong with him just being good?
     
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    I don't get this take, the Rockets got their best young player from the Cavs for a highly protected 2nd round pick that won't convey unless the Rockets are one of the top teams in the league.

    The Cavs got Jarrett Allen as part of the Harden trade where the Rockets managed to grab basically all of the Nets' future draft picks.....a team that is likely to completely implode after this season, making those picks potentially VERY valuable.

    The Cavs got their best young player due to the Rockets gambling on a long shot prospect.....but we don't know yet if that'll pay off or not.

    I don't see how those are master moves by the Cavs.
     
  8. TEXNIFICENT

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    The Rockets "best young player" is a certified head case. It's pretty simple. He's been kicked off every team he's been since high school. And if the Rockets had any stones , he'd be 3 for 3 and be kicked off this one too.

    The Nets were giving those picks regardless, the Rockets could've had Allen too, I don't think they wanted to extend him.
     
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    So, his struggles as a teen means he can't possibly amount to anything? Oh no! Don't tell Green fans that!

    The Rockets would have been complete morons to kick KPJ off the team for the incident earlier this month. Reactionary BS like that is how you end up a bottom feeder type franchise. I'm sure you'd have kicked Ron Artest off the team for his antics too right?

    Instead, they dealt with it like professionals and they are reaping the rewards.

    I get it, there's a LOT of people who desperately want KPJ to fail for various reasons.....you guys are going to be really upset if it just doesn't happen.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    I am sure at 21, you were all put together, and mature......NOT!

    The kid had a very rough life - he needs someone to believe in him and to help him learn how to be a man - will it work? Who knows? But he might be the best player on the Rockets right now....so it is 100% worth the risk.

    DD
     
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    Reaping what reward? The team is terrible and insignificant. We've all accepted that.

    Green has some basketball issues to work out and has to build his body, but he's just starting a rookie deal. KPJ is a head case and it's not even about basketball. Is it reactionary when it happens everywhere you go? What do all of these situations have in common?

    Then there is the business aspect, his rookie deal will be up soon. How much you paying him? Self awareness is not his strong suit, he could very well ask for the max. Do you pay him? Could you even trade him if you wanted to? The Cavs couldn't get a 1st for him and had to give him away. It's impossible to assess because of his behavior. You become a bottom feeder franchise be over paying guys who aren't worth the trouble.
     
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    I sure wasn't in the situation of throwing soups at people just because I had an argument prior.

    Or pulled a wig from a girl's head and threw fists together alongside my sister that I never had.

    FWIW hotheaded middle aged people are throwing things during Covid times....just for the information.
     
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    Reaping the reward of continuing to have the best young player on the team....the player most likely to develop into a superstar caliber player currently on the roster.

    We have 2 young guards that have struggled this year. One struggles because they have a "baby deer" body and don't know how to play basketball, the other struggles with maturity. We'll see which one deals with those problems, maybe both do, maybe neither do.....either way it's not time to give up on them just yet.

    Like I said, going by what you are arguing for, you'd have had teams give up on Ron Artest and as a result the Rockets would have had one fewer playoff teams and the Lakers would have one fewer championship......and the things Ron Artest did were WAY worse than anything KPJ has done.

    I get it, you think if KPJ does well, it'll take the shine away from Jalen Green, that's why you want KPJ gone. We've heard it all year long. Green's struggles have literally nothing to do with KPJ, they are complimentary players. If Green ever learns to play basketball, KPJ doing well will only help Green do even better.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    I don't care what you did at 21, you weren't in a position to be a professional athlete. The pressures associated wtih that are much different than what the majority of us faced......some in college, some not......growing up is hard.....everyone's journey is different.

    We should respect that fact, and realize that people make mistakes, and they learn from them - well most do, and you give them the tough love they need and show them a better path...sometimes it works....in fact it does MOST of the time, and sometimes it doesn't.....

    And yes, the Rockets should have a mental health plan for him so he isn't a hot head middle aged person (Mostly poor and broke - thanks to inequality in this country).

    We are doing it....so all the b****ing complaining and MOANING about it.......is doing nothing but pointing out people that basically haven't had children......or lead a group who had a star performer with challenges......

    The org has CHOSEN to see this through - you and other fans can decide you don't like it or whatever, but you don't matter......I don't matter......the org made their choice - we can sit here and whine more and more - or we can HOPE for the best.... same for me and Green.....I would have taken Mobley but I am HOPING Green becomes great because it helps my favorite team.

    And, I don't condone what Porter has done before but here, he got mad in a game, was told he was sitting out the 2nd half after an outburst and left the arena - hardly all that big of a deal - guys get mad in competitive environments all the time...didn't Tom Brady just break an IPad? I mean....if he punched someone....different.....story....but he didn't...

    GO ROCKETS !

    DD

    PS. Iverson, Barkley, Hakeem - all hotheads at 21.
     
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    What are you even talking about?.... Dude you live in your own world. You mentioned Green first.

    And last I checked, Artest went after physically trained NBA athletes on the court not GMs and 60 year old assistant coaches off of it. Call me when KPJ goes after another NBA player, because it's a lot riskier then throwing a fit on an executive, elderly coaches and leaving the locker room at halftime. Like I said I can't get excited about the kid because I think it' too risky to give this kid big NBA $$$. And he's going to ask for it in spite of his a**hole behavior.
     
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    Artest went into the stands after a beer swilling fat guy....come on TEX........he was banned for a year......

    DD
     
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    Oh, is that the only incident involving Artest that you know about? LOL

    How about when he'd leave the arena at halftime, head to a liquor store and down some Hennessey, then play the second half drunk?

    How about getting so drunk the night before that he misses the bus to the playoff game, and runs out of the hotel naked hitching a ride on the owner's bus?

    The list of absolutely over the top ridiculous Ron Artest antics is never ending.....yet I'm sure the Lakers prefer that championship he helped win them over clutching pearls.
     
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  19. TEXNIFICENT

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    Where's our prime Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol and Phil Jackson to go with KPJ?
     
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    I wouldn't have given him the max either.
     

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